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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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additional july 8th 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disc has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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uh yeah how you doing how you doing

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today is wednesday april 20th 2022

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for kjcr the game changer and nx

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networks i'm your host jimmy church

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let's do this man

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tonight

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we have very special guests

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caroline corey joins us we're going to

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be talking about the science

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of research behind ufos and uaps she's

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got a new film coming out it is called a

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tear in the sky we will talk about that

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tonight too as well

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and tomorrow night is another fader

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coming up i will be speaking at the x

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conference may 13th the 14th 2022 i'll

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be speaking on friday night it's an

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online event full info at nxnetwork.com

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i'll also be hosting disclosure fest

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june 18th that is a saturday

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disclosurefest.org i will also be in

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egypt with billy carson our guest last

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night this october

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visit forbidden knowledge.com right now

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for the complete schedule and info

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the breaking news

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and uh i'm gonna i'm gonna do uh a

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from the hubble space telescope captures

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a pair of fluttering wings produced by

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an ongoing collision between two distant

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tesla is back in the news because tesla

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tesla has posted are you ready

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record profits once again

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and uh and here's the deal there's elon

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overcoming supply chain issues that have

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dogged just about everybody in the auto

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industry but they did all of this to

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blow away wall street's forecast for the

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still even with supply chain issues the

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billion dollars much higher than the 2.6

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the 1.1 billion dollars it earned on

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the previous record of 2.9 billion it

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fourth quarter sales and 81

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incredible demand for its cars was so

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absolutely incredible tesla

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incredible yes that's right elon musk is

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the world's richest person and netflix

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talking about uh

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tesla like that

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that it lost subscribers for the first

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time in more than a decade

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the news shocked wall street and sent

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shares plummeting 35

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this morning

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wiping out

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50 billion dollars in market cap

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had dropped more than 40 percent

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disastrous netflix also said it lost 200

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000 subscribers in the first quarter of

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they expected to add

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2.5 million new users in the first three

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months of this year pulling out of

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russia alone cost the company 700 000

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subscribers but even without that the

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company still would have missed its own

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expectations by nearly 2 million

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wow and they are still considered the

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king of streaming but

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while it is so cheap and uh

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are you ready

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toby keith

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this

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is toby keith

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that's right

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no not the singer

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but a chihuahua from florida who just

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broke the record for the world's oldest

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living dog

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check him out

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toby keith born

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on january 9th

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uh 2001 toby keith

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was straight and by the way his name

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it's one word toby keith

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it's one word

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toby keith was 21 years and

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66 days old on march 16th when the

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guinness book of world records confirmed

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that yes he is the oldest dog alive

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toby keith's day consists of

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he gets his morning walk

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and then he returns home and he gets his

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favorite snack a slice

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of turkey

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then he goes for a few more short walks

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and then he lies around for the rest of

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the day doing pretty much nothing

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as it should be

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now according to guinness the oldest dog

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ever recorded was an australian cattle

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dog that lived 29 years and five months

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toby keith has got eight more years of

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the good life to live to break that

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record

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and i'm gonna keep you posted

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there you go toby keith

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check out my man

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toby keith that's absolutely incredible

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let's get this show cracking

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uh

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on this day in history 1978

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soviet aircraft forced a korean airlines

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passenger jet to land on a frozen lake

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in the soviet union after the jet veers

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into russian airspace two people died

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during that crash landing on that frozen

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lake fader fact

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okay we're gonna be talking about

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science all night tonight

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and i've got more more to come in just a

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but here's your fader fact

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the distance of earth from the sun

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is 108 times the diameter

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the distance between the earth and the

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108 times the diameter

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of the moon

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dun dun dun

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happy 420 everybody i saved that for now

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and uh i don't puff puff

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i know that some of you think i do i

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don't i haven't puff puffed in a long

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time i puffed puffed

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enough

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in my life

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to last forever

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it's been about 20 years been about 20

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years since i pop puff

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i'm gonna guess i'm gonna say

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2000

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yeah something like it's been a long

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time but

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happy 4 20.

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all right tonight very special guest

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caroline corey joins us we're going to

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be talking the science of research

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behind

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ufos and uaps and how she gets it done

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and she's also got a new film coming up

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and it's going to premiere on may 3rd

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which is in two weeks you can pre-order

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the film

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and uh i'll get links up in social media

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for that i think we already have it it's

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called a tear in the sky tomorrow

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night's another fader night with open

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lines all night long

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and uh and and here's the deal

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got a new setup everybody knows that we

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got the new video we get it's all

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happening in here

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tomorrow night's going to be the first

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fader night with this setup and that's

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going to be interesting why because the

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phones are over here on this screen

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they're no longer in front of me they're

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i've got a microphone in my way i've got

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to figure out this a way to see things

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and i like the microphone on this side

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instead of this side i should have done

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that a long time ago but now i've got

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an issue

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yeah we'll get it figured out

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now it's time for me to hit this

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river moon coffee all of the links

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yeah

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all right

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i need some coffee for this one

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ufo research or even

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ufology

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you know whatever you want to call it

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right that's fine

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traditionally

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what has it consisted of

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over the last 70 or so years

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right now i want you to think about that

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put that in your mind

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and think about what ufo research has

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been

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all right

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now let's take the last four or five

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years off of the uh off the table first

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let's just start right there let's take

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the last four or five years off of the

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table and next

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let's kind of start at the beginning

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because it precedes 1947 of course

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right there's been sightings and

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documentation

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of uh sightings uh way before 1947 but

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let's just kind of start right there

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let's go

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with 1947

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with projects sign

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and blue book

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all were of course the air force

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and sign was basically around for

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for the year 1947 into 1948 all right

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and

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then it was followed by project grudge

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in 1949

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and grudge hung out for a couple of

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years and then

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it uh

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it was either relabeled all of them is

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you know signed grudge and blue book

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probably all basically the same things

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right but nonetheless

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project blue book in 1952 kicked off and

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no real science

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just collecting reports

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taking notes

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talking to witnesses

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looking at images

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debunking

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and moving on

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right wash rinse repeat over and over

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again for 20 years

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none of it was real research

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there wasn't any science involved

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now although we had

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jay allen heineck's great mind and

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knowledge no question about that

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but he was never put in a position to

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set up shop right to pull in experts

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to study the data to test to measure

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now sure he wanted to

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but that wasn't what the air force was

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all about with blue book

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okay they were about explaining it away

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and that was a big chunk

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of what you would call ufo research

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right

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think about that

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now we have

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enrico fermi

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and enrico with his paradox

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you know the fermi paradox uh that there

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must be a lot of alien life out there

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but where is everybody

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right

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the paradox has stirred

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a lot of conversation over the years

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books have been published it's been in

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interviews and documentaries and

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always talked about in certain

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scientific circles

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and it was always and still is a great

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thought experiment i have

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right now

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i have at least

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five books four that are in constant

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rotation

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just on the fermi paradox

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isaac arthur an excellent presentation

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well actually over and over again

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over at science and futurism with isaac

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arthur and uh he covers the fermi

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paradox well

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right

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and we get all kinds of answers and

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contradictions

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if you look at

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including the five books that i have and

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isaac arthur's uh and i bring up isaac

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because he he is so comprehensive in his

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detail on the fermi paradox

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um

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these answers

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because it's a paradox

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there are

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in the books that i'm reading right now

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70 80

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90

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different classifications

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so

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it takes a long time to get through

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the fermi paradox

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all right

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is it research these are scientific

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circles these are brilliant minds well

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it's our circles too i'm not a scientist

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and i discuss it all the time

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but in scientific circles very brilliant

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people

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bring it up uh i talk about sam harris

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all the time i talk about brian green

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all the time and there's a really great

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interview with sam harris and brian

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green that you can check out online

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and right in the middle of this like

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three hours long and right in the middle

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of it sam harris turns to

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uh

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he goes and what about the fermi problem

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right brian good i think it's kind of

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framed uh the fermi paradox but they go

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into that for 60 minutes

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right so there's a lot of very

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intelligent a lot of brilliant minds

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that discuss this but is that research

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no

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it's just a conversation

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let's go back to what i started talking

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about in the beginning ufo research

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right ufology what's the research that

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00:23:03,029 --> 00:23:00,320
has gone into this

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00:23:05,350 --> 00:23:03,039
now the closest

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that we have gotten to some sort of real

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science and i haven't talked about seti

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i haven't talked about avi loeb haven't

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00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:12,880
gotten to that yet

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00:23:17,750 --> 00:23:15,520
but the closest that we've gotten to

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real science

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00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:22,480
that applied to ufo research is probably

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the drake equation

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drake equations been around for a long

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time and now 60 years by the way 60 61

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years

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and the drake equation is

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um

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problem it's an algorithm

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right

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used to estimate the number of active

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communicative extraterrestrial

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civilizations in the milky way

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that's what it is we talk about the

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00:24:03,669 --> 00:24:01,520
drake equation all the time

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00:24:05,990 --> 00:24:03,679
but what is it

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it is pretty much the closest we've

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gotten to science i remember the first

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time that i read

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the drake equation i was like wow that's

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impressive

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we've got scientists out there

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looking at the ufo problem the ufo

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question the equation was formulated in

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1961 by frank drake now not for purposes

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of quantifying the number of

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civilizations but but as a way to

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stimulate scientific dialogue that

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conversation that i've been talking

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about

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all of this at the first scientific

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meeting of the search for

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extraterrestrial intelligence known

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today as

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seti

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now the drake equation itself

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i don't have it up on the screen

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somebody else can post it

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but it's

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it's n

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equals r

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times f p times n e times f l times f i

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times fc

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times l

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where

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n

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right

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is the number of civilizations in our

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galaxy

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with which communication might be

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possible

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right

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you know which are on our current

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00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:23,120
past light cone right here

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and

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r in the equation

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is the average rate of a star formation

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in our galaxy

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okay

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and these numbers now

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are coming in

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modern this was written in 1961.

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fp the fraction of those stars that have

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planets

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and e

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the average number of planets that can

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potentially support life per star

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that has planets now we know that every

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star has planets

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fl the fraction of planets that could

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support life that actually develop life

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00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:12,400
at some point

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fi the fraction of planets with life

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that actually go on to develop

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intelligent life or civilizations

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fc

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the fraction of civilizations that

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develop a technology that releases

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detectable signs of their existence into

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space

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and then you have l

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the length of time for which such

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civilizations release

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detectable signals

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into space

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now where are we today

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with modern numbers plugged into the

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drake equation depending on where you

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00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,520
get them from

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we get

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somewhere between

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15 million

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to 30

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billion

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00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,880
intelligent civilizations out there in

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00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:04,799
the milky way

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00:27:10,230 --> 00:27:07,279
all right when this was first formulated

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00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:10,240
in 1961 all guesswork by the way and

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most of these numbers were all

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00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:15,520
imaginary

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00:27:20,549 --> 00:27:18,159
we had no clue we didn't know that there

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00:27:23,029 --> 00:27:20,559
was another planet out there let alone

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00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:23,039
every star has a planet right

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00:27:29,190 --> 00:27:26,720
but plugging in modern numbers it now

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spits out on the far side

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00:27:35,029 --> 00:27:32,960
30 billion intelligent civilizations out

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00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:35,039
there in the milky way

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00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:38,240
but is this science

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00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,600
not really

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00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:42,240
it's as close as we've gotten

558
00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:45,440
it's another thought experiment this is

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00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,720
cause of discussion

560
00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:50,960
yeah and it's a fun one for sure i love

561
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:52,799
doing it

562
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,120
the other part of ufo research is the

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photo and video analysis that goes on

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00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:00,559
and most of it has come from members of

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00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,600
our own community sure some have serious

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00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:05,760
credentials and professional backgrounds

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00:28:10,230 --> 00:28:08,159
and they can analyze video and images

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00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:10,240
and triangulate they've applied some of

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00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,880
the best software available as we move

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00:28:16,870 --> 00:28:14,240
along and

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00:28:19,029 --> 00:28:16,880
and also they've applied some great math

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00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:19,039
but serious research

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00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:23,520
from a university or government agency

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00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:26,000
well it's been done

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00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,640
it's just not public

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00:28:33,269 --> 00:28:30,799
yet

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00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,279
most of what we know today

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00:28:37,990 --> 00:28:35,760
has come from eyewitnesses

579
00:28:39,830 --> 00:28:38,000
and various reports that have been filed

580
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:39,840
over the years there's all those

581
00:28:43,750 --> 00:28:42,159
different civilian research groups that

582
00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:43,760
have come and gone

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00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:46,720
and today we have mufon and most of it

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00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:50,159
is centered around mufon today

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and mufon has certainly tried at least

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this is their stated goal

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to apply

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the scientific method to their database

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of accounts

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testimony photos and video

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which leaves us to where we are now

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the last four or five years

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now it seems real research is going on

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we have the department of defense we

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have the uap task force we have the

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senate intelligence committee focusing

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on this and we have avi loeb with the

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galileo project

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and harvard university

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we've got that going for us

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and we've also got

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caroline corey

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caroline has taken it upon herself to

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put a team together

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to apply the science to collect the data

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this isn't the first time that she has

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done this with her new film a tear in

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the sky she has applied the scientific

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method

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to the paranormal to the supernatural

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and to super humans

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and and how some of this stuff happens

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telekinesis

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right remote viewing

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and this is what we need today and the

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last four or five years have been some

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of the most exciting

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in the history

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of ufology

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i'm your yours jimmy church this is fade

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to black tonight caroline corey is with

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us we're going to be talking about the

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science of uap and ufo research her new

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film a tear in the sky

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is now available for free

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up and

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it premieres may 3rd so we're going to

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be doing all of that tonight tomorrow

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night is another fader night with open

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am your host jimmy church tonight

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caroline corey joins us

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we're going to be talking a little bit

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about her new film a tear in the sky

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we're going to be talking about the

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science and research behind ufos and

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uaps and other phenomena

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she's a filmmaker she's a futurist

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international speaker and the visionary

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author of best-selling books on

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consciousness and quantum healing

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as a child and throughout her life she

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has had numerous otherworldly encounters

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which led her to become deeply connected

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to spirituality the study of

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00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:22,320
consciousness and the mechanics of the

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universe in 2010 she founded omnium

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media and has also written directed and

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produced short and feature animated

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films and completed several feature and

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tv pilot screenplays in addition to

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writing and producing she has appeared

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as a guest expert on at major

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conferences and on television shows and

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including

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ancient aliens all of her links are up

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god's among us superhuman film and of

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course carolinecorey.com

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and

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a tear in the sky dot com where you can

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go right now and pre-order the film i

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would like to welcome back to fade to

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black the one and only

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caroline corey

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hey john

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how you doing

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i'm awesome

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00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,839
wow an introduction that's awesome

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00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:13,760
you know thank you so much we've been

741
00:36:18,950 --> 00:36:16,160
hanging out and uh

742
00:36:22,230 --> 00:36:18,960
and talking you know for years

743
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:22,240
and before we get into uh tonight's

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00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:23,520
discussion

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00:36:27,990 --> 00:36:26,320
um over the last couple of weeks we've

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uh

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00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:29,520
consciousness

748
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:32,880
has been coming up on the show and more

749
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:36,800
of the scientific side the physics side

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00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,320
it's one of my favorite subjects to

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00:36:43,589 --> 00:36:40,880
bring up and and the fight

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00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:43,599
uh that uh science puts up against it

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00:36:47,109 --> 00:36:45,839
right they just don't want to discuss

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00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:47,119
consciousness

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00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:48,800
for you

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00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:51,280
how close are we do you think that we're

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one day we're going to be able to

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measure to quantify consciousness

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00:37:01,589 --> 00:36:58,800
well we are quantifying consciousness

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00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:01,599
we're we're actually quantifying the

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00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,920
effects of consciousness we're not

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quantifying consciousness because

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00:37:12,310 --> 00:37:10,620
consciousness itself is unquantifiable

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[Laughter]

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oh my god we're starting really really

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deep right now

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00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,160
um

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so i keep going

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well uh everybody defines consciousness

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differently but for me consciousness is

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the substance it's a fundamental

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00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:35,040
substance of all of existence in other

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words from consciousness everything

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emerges

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and so if that is the case

776
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then from consciousness you and i emerge

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the planets emerge uh the physical

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universe emerges

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and so when we are trying

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to

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um

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00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:56,400
measure

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something with physical instruments

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something that is

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before if there is such a thing as

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before and after the physical world

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you just can't do that because the

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physical instruments came from

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consciousness it's all part of it does

790
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that make sense

791
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well if i see in from a from a physics

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standpoint

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uh i think that one of the reasons why

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uh science and physicists are so scared

795
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of consciousness is they feel that

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everything's got to be measured right

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right it's it's it's got to go into a

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lab we've got to be able to do this and

799
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we've got to apply math to it and figure

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out what's going on and until

801
00:38:42,550 --> 00:38:40,800
we can do that

802
00:38:44,470 --> 00:38:42,560
we don't know what consciousness is and

803
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:44,480
we're not going to waste our time with

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it

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00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,760
this is this is the line in the sand

806
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:49,200
that they've given

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00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:50,640
the rest of the world and here's the

808
00:38:55,829 --> 00:38:53,359
other part you're right you can quantify

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00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:55,839
it because those physicists know

810
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that they can think they can laugh

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00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,960
they can even ponder

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00:39:06,390 --> 00:39:03,359
the significance of the smallest of

813
00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:06,400
particles and the vastness of space and

814
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:08,240
apply numbers to that they know that

815
00:39:12,390 --> 00:39:10,320
they can think about all of this stuff

816
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:12,400
so they know consciousness is a real

817
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:14,480
thing but they just don't want to talk

818
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,760
about it

819
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:17,520
yeah exactly and i just went through

820
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:20,240
this recently in this very last film

821
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:22,240
that i did that you've been talking

822
00:39:30,390 --> 00:39:26,960
about uh you know so what happens is

823
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:30,400
we were having these discussions that uh

824
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,440
uh

825
00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:33,760
what is behind consciousness or what is

826
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:36,000
consciousness and things like that and

827
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:38,240
the reaction is that

828
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um

829
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:41,119
this green screen is acting strange

830
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:44,560
right yeah you're you're

831
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:47,280
attention to the chat room yeah yeah

832
00:39:52,470 --> 00:39:50,079
okay i'm just like this ghostly

833
00:39:56,230 --> 00:39:52,480
person don't worry about the cat room

834
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,240
yeah uh so anyway uh so what happens is

835
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,640
that they tell us that we don't have

836
00:40:01,910 --> 00:40:00,720
enough evidence we don't have enough

837
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:01,920
data

838
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:04,160
therefore let's not go there they

839
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,640
literally say we can't go there because

840
00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:08,319
we don't have enough data

841
00:40:13,829 --> 00:40:09,280
so

842
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,839
fascinating to me because science and

843
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:15,359
scientists

844
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:16,240
are

845
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:18,640
supposed to be going

846
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:22,240
to you know into the uh the topics that

847
00:40:26,230 --> 00:40:25,119
we need to understand you know so

848
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:26,240
so

849
00:40:30,790 --> 00:40:28,240
you know i just i just went through it

850
00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:30,800
uh recently with with some scientists

851
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:32,800
and you just can't even

852
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,160
you know say the word c you know the c

853
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:38,400
word you can't talk about it

854
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,440
so

855
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:41,359
yeah yeah and

856
00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:45,599
here's here's another uh point that i

857
00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,000
i kind of buy into this

858
00:40:52,790 --> 00:40:50,720
and and that some physicists suggest

859
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:52,800
that there's a little piece of

860
00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:54,079
consciousness

861
00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:55,920
in every particle

862
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,599
and then once you get a mass of

863
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,280
particles together

864
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:01,440
this builds up and then boom you get the

865
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,880
mass inside

866
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:05,440
uh your head you know between your ears

867
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:08,319
and consciousness is there but it's just

868
00:41:12,870 --> 00:41:11,119
chemistry there's nothing magical about

869
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:12,880
it and

870
00:41:17,030 --> 00:41:15,359
there's a part of me that says that may

871
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,040
be true

872
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:19,520
but i'm not so sure because once

873
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:21,440
particles shut down

874
00:41:24,630 --> 00:41:23,680
consciousness seems to continue doesn't

875
00:41:26,309 --> 00:41:24,640
it

876
00:41:28,150 --> 00:41:26,319
exactly and that's what i was saying

877
00:41:30,470 --> 00:41:28,160
consciousness is fundamental in other

878
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,480
words consciousness is the particle

879
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:32,480
itself

880
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:36,800
you can't separate the two and you can't

881
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,440
it's not outside the particle and it's

882
00:41:45,109 --> 00:41:42,079
not a particle coming together

883
00:41:46,550 --> 00:41:45,119
everything is consciousness is a form of

884
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:46,560
consciousness

885
00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:51,200
the physical body is a form of

886
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:53,040
consciousness physical you know the

887
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:56,560
particles um of the galaxies and the

888
00:42:01,109 --> 00:41:59,200
planets are are a form of consciousness

889
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:01,119
so so it's a different type of

890
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:04,400
consciousness but everything is

891
00:42:10,309 --> 00:42:08,240
made of this fundamental substance

892
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:10,319
that's why we say we're all connected

893
00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:12,560
because we all came from that

894
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:14,400
fundamental

895
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,680
substance

896
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:17,119
now

897
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:20,560
we can tie this directly into

898
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,880
ufos and uaps

899
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:24,800
and i

900
00:42:29,430 --> 00:42:27,440
i say this not because of what i've read

901
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:29,440
or what i've heard or eyewitness

902
00:42:35,670 --> 00:42:32,240
testimony or even ce5s

903
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:35,680
that every time not every time but

904
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:37,200
pretty much

905
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:39,680
that i want to see something and i

906
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,720
project that out there i see something

907
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:44,880
when i'm not thinking about it i can

908
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:47,200
look up in the sky and and nothing shows

909
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,160
up but if i pop out a positive vibe and

910
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:52,560
i'm not talking about oh my e.t brothers

911
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,480
will you come and visit me show yourself

912
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,640
i'm just like wouldn't it be cool if uh

913
00:43:01,750 --> 00:43:00,800
you know and then all of a sudden what

914
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,760
bap

915
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,839
and i think that there is a connection

916
00:43:08,230 --> 00:43:06,000
there and that is something else you've

917
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:08,240
been working on this but i think that

918
00:43:11,510 --> 00:43:09,839
this is something else that science

919
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:11,520
would be interested in

920
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:13,599
you would think right

921
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,200
the problem is it's it's hard to prove

922
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,920
you know uh you have to do really like

923
00:43:24,309 --> 00:43:21,839
control groups and you have to have you

924
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,319
have to to be able to repeat it

925
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:26,960
over and over under you know certain

926
00:43:32,230 --> 00:43:29,520
conditions so that's how science works

927
00:43:34,069 --> 00:43:32,240
and if you can't do it exactly like that

928
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:34,079
they say you can't prove it therefore

929
00:43:38,390 --> 00:43:35,440
it's not real

930
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:38,400
or it's a coincidence and so

931
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:40,400
and that's because they don't understand

932
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:43,200
the nature of mind itself the nature of

933
00:43:46,870 --> 00:43:44,800
consciousness itself

934
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,880
you know

935
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,160
yeah

936
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,560
staying on i'm gonna i don't do this

937
00:43:54,870 --> 00:43:52,640
often but i'm gonna do this now i'm

938
00:43:55,990 --> 00:43:54,880
gonna bring in this comment

939
00:43:58,710 --> 00:43:56,000
and

940
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,720
because this was my next question could

941
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:00,560
it be that we are all just quantum

942
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:03,520
entangled from the point of the big bang

943
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:06,160
and this is what consciousness is i

944
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,599
think that is if entanglement this is

945
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:11,520
where physics needs to get their act

946
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:13,119
together

947
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:16,160
because they want us to understand

948
00:44:20,550 --> 00:44:18,640
entanglement right they're doing their

949
00:44:22,470 --> 00:44:20,560
best and it's a pretty fascinating

950
00:44:23,430 --> 00:44:22,480
subject right this is real science

951
00:44:27,510 --> 00:44:23,440
fiction

952
00:44:29,589 --> 00:44:27,520
happening but if entanglement is real

953
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:29,599
connected to the other side of the

954
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:32,319
universe in real time

955
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:33,680
then

956
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:36,160
wouldn't that be a way to communicate

957
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:37,839
with uh

958
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:41,040
two conscious minds or more

959
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:42,960
yeah it makes perfect sense to you and

960
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:45,119
me but they're talking about physical

961
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,280
particles you know one particle on this

962
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,520
side is going to change exchange

963
00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:51,920
properties with another particle on this

964
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:54,160
side without actually coming in physical

965
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:56,720
contact together they're still

966
00:45:03,030 --> 00:44:59,599
yeah i know i mean you would think

967
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:03,040
that the mind i mean if you look at it

968
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:04,640
even though they're talking about

969
00:45:10,309 --> 00:45:07,520
physical particles but you would think

970
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,319
that as a principle

971
00:45:14,710 --> 00:45:12,400
you know it should hold for everything

972
00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:14,720
if that's possible for two physical

973
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:17,680
particles and it could be possible

974
00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:20,560
that i mean two people who are not in

975
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:23,280
physical contact could also exchange

976
00:45:28,630 --> 00:45:26,319
information since we are physical beings

977
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:28,640
we have physical bodies why is it not

978
00:45:33,270 --> 00:45:31,200
possible that this physical body talks

979
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,280
to this other physical body without

980
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:35,680
touching each other you know

981
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:37,839
now have you done

982
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,040
uh

983
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:41,280
have you done i know you're going to say

984
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,960
yes but if you've done a successful ce5

985
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:47,119
where you've gone out and and gone

986
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,880
through the processes

987
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:51,200
and then the sky lights up

988
00:45:57,829 --> 00:45:54,000
oh all the time in fact that's what

989
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:57,839
saved me it saved me in this last film

990
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:01,119
i don't call it c5 per se i have my own

991
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,000
way

992
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:04,960
of doing it but absolutely and in fact

993
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:06,160
sometimes

994
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:06,880
i

995
00:46:10,710 --> 00:46:07,920
know

996
00:46:14,309 --> 00:46:10,720
that it's not going to work so sometimes

997
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,319
we we go out there and then i kind of

998
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,720
communicate and i feel like it's not

999
00:46:22,309 --> 00:46:18,960
going to happen it's not the right time

1000
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,319
or something like that and so i know for

1001
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,720
a fact i've done it like i do it all the

1002
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:25,839
time

1003
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:27,040
uh so

1004
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,880
so i'm a thousand percent

1005
00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:32,079
sure

1006
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:34,319
that there is a connection in fact in my

1007
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:36,079
last film as you know in superhuman

1008
00:46:41,910 --> 00:46:39,359
that's all we've demonstrated yeah the

1009
00:46:43,349 --> 00:46:41,920
measurable connection between mind and

1010
00:46:44,390 --> 00:46:43,359
matter

1011
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,400
i mean

1012
00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:47,280
there's no question right now let's stay

1013
00:46:51,430 --> 00:46:49,200
on this for a second uh because we're

1014
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:51,440
going to be talking about all of this

1015
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,400
tonight uh as we get deeper into ufos

1016
00:46:59,670 --> 00:46:57,119
and uaps but

1017
00:47:01,670 --> 00:46:59,680
in your films i know i've talked to you

1018
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:01,680
about this before but

1019
00:47:07,109 --> 00:47:05,040
we need to revisit this in your films

1020
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,119
whether it's telekinesis

1021
00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:09,760
or remote viewing uh

1022
00:47:14,870 --> 00:47:11,920
whatever it may be reading you know

1023
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:14,880
blindfolds on and reading books

1024
00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:16,960
is that entanglement

1025
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:18,800
right that right there and it's fun is

1026
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,960
that what is is allowing this to happen

1027
00:47:26,950 --> 00:47:25,200
i think so i mean i'm pretty sure that's

1028
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,960
what it is but again

1029
00:47:30,309 --> 00:47:28,800
not the way science explains it because

1030
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:30,319
they're talking about physical matter

1031
00:47:37,349 --> 00:47:33,920
only but to me it's the exact same thing

1032
00:47:40,309 --> 00:47:37,359
because again if consciousness is

1033
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:40,319
fundamental it means it makes up

1034
00:47:50,230 --> 00:47:42,000
everything

1035
00:47:52,710 --> 00:47:50,240
now

1036
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:52,720
so if it is connected so there's an

1037
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:54,640
there isn't there is an umbilical cord

1038
00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:58,319
so to speak with every aspect of life so

1039
00:48:01,510 --> 00:48:00,559
in that way when i'm trying to connect

1040
00:48:03,270 --> 00:48:01,520
with

1041
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:03,280
something else even though i'm not in

1042
00:48:09,349 --> 00:48:06,000
physical contact with it but it's like

1043
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,359
underneath we are already connected that

1044
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:12,240
is entanglement 100

1045
00:48:18,150 --> 00:48:15,040
when um i'm just going to share a little

1046
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:18,160
private thing uh with our audience uh

1047
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,200
without getting into too much uh

1048
00:48:26,390 --> 00:48:23,119
specifics

1049
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,400
you and i uh went out to dinner by

1050
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,920
ourselves

1051
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,200
and

1052
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,079
we sat for i don't know what maybe three

1053
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:35,119
hours right probably

1054
00:48:38,309 --> 00:48:36,400
probably more

1055
00:48:40,390 --> 00:48:38,319
and and i said

1056
00:48:42,470 --> 00:48:40,400
i said to caroline everybody about

1057
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:42,480
halfway through the meal

1058
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:45,280
i said are you reading my mind

1059
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,200
do you have that ability to read my mind

1060
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:51,680
because caroline

1061
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:55,200
was answering and asking questions ahead

1062
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:56,800
of my thought

1063
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:59,040
and it was starting to bug me right so i

1064
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:00,079
said

1065
00:49:05,430 --> 00:49:04,240
right now and you and you kind of gave

1066
00:49:11,109 --> 00:49:05,440
me this

1067
00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:12,870
now i'm going to answer i'm going to ask

1068
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:15,280
you the same can you re do you have that

1069
00:49:20,150 --> 00:49:17,680
ability do you have the gift

1070
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:20,160
uh that that allows you

1071
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:21,920
remote viewing or

1072
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,760
or some forms of uh telekinesis and and

1073
00:49:30,150 --> 00:49:27,760
the power of thought

1074
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:30,160
well yeah i mean that's how i started

1075
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,400
really when i was five years old i mean

1076
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:34,640
that's when i realized that i was

1077
00:49:37,589 --> 00:49:36,079
basically

1078
00:49:39,750 --> 00:49:37,599
communicating telepathically

1079
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:39,760
spontaneously and by the way everybody

1080
00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:42,160
can do that i'm nothing special i think

1081
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:43,920
the only thing is people just don't know

1082
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:45,839
how to do it so let's just put this out

1083
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:49,520
there uh but yeah i and it's not like

1084
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:52,160
what people think like

1085
00:49:57,510 --> 00:49:54,640
i'm inside your mind i mean i kind of am

1086
00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:00,150
and i'm kind of like reading your it's

1087
00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:02,160
see what happens can i tell the

1088
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:03,920
five-year-old story

1089
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,800
yes i would love to hear it okay so

1090
00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:09,119
so what happened is that when i was five

1091
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:11,920
years old um i was just there and all of

1092
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:14,400
a sudden there's these beings this

1093
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:17,359
consciousness this group of intelligent

1094
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:20,240
beings that just showed up and we

1095
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:22,000
started communicating telepathically i

1096
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,520
could hear them they could hear me we

1097
00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:25,440
were just like talking of course not in

1098
00:50:30,069 --> 00:50:28,000
english or french just like thoughts

1099
00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:30,079
and of course i'm five years old and i

1100
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:32,000
thought oh you know like it's no big

1101
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:34,000
deal everybody does that

1102
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,200
and so i could understand everything

1103
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:39,119
they were saying and they were they were

1104
00:50:44,150 --> 00:50:40,559
hearing me as well

1105
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:44,160
and they told me to notice what my brain

1106
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:45,760
was doing

1107
00:50:51,510 --> 00:50:48,960
to be able to do this exchange

1108
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,520
and so i kind of like concentrated i was

1109
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,520
like yeah you know i kind of wanted to

1110
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,160
know how of course i didn't know

1111
00:51:02,150 --> 00:50:57,760
but what i did

1112
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,160
was i focused my intention my my wanting

1113
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:04,400
to do that and so

1114
00:51:09,030 --> 00:51:06,640
that stayed with me for the rest of my

1115
00:51:11,109 --> 00:51:09,040
life so that

1116
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:11,119
i could eventually

1117
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:12,000
learn

1118
00:51:17,109 --> 00:51:14,880
how to tap into information

1119
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:17,119
that i was outside of me

1120
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,400
and of course

1121
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:20,640
that's how i develop methodologies for

1122
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:22,800
healing or for remote viewing because

1123
00:51:28,230 --> 00:51:25,760
it's the same principle if you are able

1124
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:28,240
to because everything is information

1125
00:51:34,790 --> 00:51:31,440
it's information the dna is information

1126
00:51:37,030 --> 00:51:34,800
so you are tapping into information that

1127
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:37,040
is outside yourself your brain is

1128
00:51:43,109 --> 00:51:40,640
outside my being and so

1129
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:43,119
once you know how to do it for one thing

1130
00:51:49,190 --> 00:51:46,160
then you can apply it for for everything

1131
00:51:50,950 --> 00:51:49,200
in the case of thoughts it's uh

1132
00:51:53,670 --> 00:51:50,960
sometimes you don't necessarily hear

1133
00:51:56,630 --> 00:51:53,680
words sometimes it's words but sometimes

1134
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:56,640
it's just the kind of the concept like

1135
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:58,160
for example

1136
00:52:03,030 --> 00:52:00,640
um i'm hungry right now or i'd like to

1137
00:52:05,990 --> 00:52:03,040
have a drink right now you know so you

1138
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,000
may not have said i want to have a drink

1139
00:52:10,870 --> 00:52:08,880
but it's that desire the thought of

1140
00:52:13,990 --> 00:52:10,880
wanting to have a drink

1141
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,000
could your five year old mind

1142
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,319
change the menu in the school cafeteria

1143
00:52:21,349 --> 00:52:19,040
for the next

1144
00:52:22,549 --> 00:52:21,359
sometimes i would do crazy stuff like

1145
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:22,559
that

1146
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:24,400
your mom is like i don't know why i want

1147
00:52:34,069 --> 00:52:32,230
and uh but yeah yeah

1148
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,079
and part of that you know

1149
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:36,480
the ability to manifest to look at your

1150
00:52:39,510 --> 00:52:37,440
future

1151
00:52:42,069 --> 00:52:39,520
uh to change your path to change your

1152
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:42,079
life all of this is is the power of

1153
00:52:45,990 --> 00:52:43,040
thought

1154
00:52:48,230 --> 00:52:46,000
exactly exactly and people don't realize

1155
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:48,240
that that is how they're creating you

1156
00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:49,280
know they're they're not paying

1157
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:52,000
attention that their thought is kind of

1158
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,760
like an electrical charge you know

1159
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:56,400
you're putting it out there and it's you

1160
00:53:01,670 --> 00:52:58,960
know interacting with other particles of

1161
00:53:03,670 --> 00:53:01,680
energy and you're moving things but we

1162
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:03,680
don't see any of that i mean i could see

1163
00:53:08,150 --> 00:53:06,480
this little energy so i could see

1164
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:08,160
everything that was happening but you

1165
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:10,559
know most people can't see any of this

1166
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:12,800
so they don't understand the mechanics

1167
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:15,040
of it and the mechanism and of course

1168
00:53:18,870 --> 00:53:16,720
science tells us there's nothing there

1169
00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:18,880
there's nothing there so right right

1170
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,800
which is in your journey

1171
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:24,720
you

1172
00:53:31,270 --> 00:53:28,079
wanted to figure out a way to bring this

1173
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:31,280
to the masses to pull into science

1174
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,319
uh to pull into a lab

1175
00:53:39,109 --> 00:53:37,440
and and and start to look at this so the

1176
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:39,119
rest of the world can understand it and

1177
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:40,800
this is no longer

1178
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,599
a crazy community in tin foil hats and

1179
00:53:47,910 --> 00:53:44,720
all of that

1180
00:53:50,150 --> 00:53:47,920
and that started your filmmaking journey

1181
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,160
with this which i think each one of your

1182
00:53:54,309 --> 00:53:52,240
films is half science

1183
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:54,319
right it's half science and half of the

1184
00:53:59,190 --> 00:53:56,480
and the other half is the phenomena

1185
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,200
yeah exactly and that's the idea because

1186
00:54:04,069 --> 00:54:01,440
doing this my whole life and working

1187
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:04,079
with so many people around the world

1188
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:06,640
training people working with people

1189
00:54:11,750 --> 00:54:09,200
what happens is that um you get

1190
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:11,760
validation you know like you do

1191
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:14,400
something and you get validation and in

1192
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:16,480
the case of telekinesis you're focusing

1193
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:19,040
your consciousness specifically in a way

1194
00:54:23,910 --> 00:54:21,359
and you're affecting the ph of water or

1195
00:54:26,870 --> 00:54:23,920
you're moving an object i mean this is

1196
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:26,880
measurable these are real effects that

1197
00:54:30,950 --> 00:54:29,119
you can measure and so and these are

1198
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:30,960
this is validation so when you get

1199
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,040
validation after validation after

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00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,480
validation

1201
00:54:40,150 --> 00:54:36,559
at one point you say okay wait a minute

1202
00:54:42,789 --> 00:54:40,160
even though uh people may not know how

1203
00:54:46,150 --> 00:54:42,799
it's working but it is working because

1204
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,160
look first it's this now it's that

1205
00:54:50,309 --> 00:54:48,000
you know first there's the blood test

1206
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:50,319
that shows this and now it shows that

1207
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:52,799
you know i mean it's it's the the x-ray

1208
00:54:58,150 --> 00:54:55,520
shows this now it shows that so

1209
00:55:00,870 --> 00:54:58,160
having all this validation

1210
00:55:04,390 --> 00:55:00,880
gave me the extra kind of encouragement

1211
00:55:05,270 --> 00:55:04,400
or the confidence to talk about it more

1212
00:55:07,910 --> 00:55:05,280
um

1213
00:55:11,349 --> 00:55:07,920
in the mainstream and then the way to do

1214
00:55:13,510 --> 00:55:11,359
that is to bring science is to say hey

1215
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:13,520
we're in it's not just woo-woo stuff

1216
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:16,240
look this is the science this is there

1217
00:55:19,430 --> 00:55:18,400
is something a part of it that we can

1218
00:55:22,630 --> 00:55:19,440
measure

1219
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:22,640
here it is and so i feel like that's

1220
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:26,240
been my signature kind of as a filmmaker

1221
00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:28,480
um you know instead of just talking

1222
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:31,200
talking i want to show and i want to

1223
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:34,480
demonstrate and i want to validate

1224
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:36,000
uh with

1225
00:55:40,309 --> 00:55:38,240
metrics you know with with anything i

1226
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:40,319
can that's scientific

1227
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:43,440
with that uh let's take a a moment here

1228
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:46,880
and check out uh the trailer for a tear

1229
00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:50,720
in the sky and here mankind

1230
00:55:56,069 --> 00:55:54,160
is an insatiable curiosity insatiable

1231
00:55:58,230 --> 00:55:56,079
what is that

1232
00:56:00,870 --> 00:55:58,240
nobody knows

1233
00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,880
the phenomena

1234
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:02,640
nobody nobody's ever done this as far as

1235
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:05,760
i know it's a huge amount of work a huge

1236
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,960
amount of data and equipment that has

1237
00:56:12,950 --> 00:56:10,480
never been done

1238
00:56:15,349 --> 00:56:12,960
whatever this is is more complex than we

1239
00:56:17,750 --> 00:56:15,359
could ever imagine this is a first in

1240
00:56:20,069 --> 00:56:17,760
the field of ufology the variety of

1241
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:20,079
devices we're bringing as a team to

1242
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:22,640
study the phenomenon covered an entire

1243
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:25,920
spectrum of different technologies in

1244
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:32,230
that moment shook me to the core because

1245
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:37,990
i think we're gonna have like a couple

1246
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:41,490
of really really good spots

1247
00:56:45,670 --> 00:56:43,200
[Music]

1248
00:56:48,230 --> 00:56:45,680
when i hear that you've assembled a team

1249
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:48,240
of top scientists using state-of-the-art

1250
00:56:52,150 --> 00:56:51,200
equipment i say to myself it's about

1251
00:56:55,349 --> 00:56:52,160
time

1252
00:56:56,710 --> 00:56:55,359
this is an unidentified unclassified new

1253
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:56,720
phenomenon

1254
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:57,760
wow

1255
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,040
tic-tacs

1256
00:57:04,109 --> 00:57:01,280
maybe tic-tac-toe maybe caught on our

1257
00:57:07,630 --> 00:57:04,119
cameras that's incredible

1258
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:07,640
crazy it isn't crazy it's crazy it's

1259
00:57:13,670 --> 00:57:10,880
crazy we can go from body heat to very

1260
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:13,680
cold like about minus 62 celsius or

1261
00:57:20,150 --> 00:57:16,880
minus 80 fahrenheit wow

1262
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,160
we will be transmitting data up to 800

1263
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:22,480
terahertz in frequency our highest

1264
00:57:27,109 --> 00:57:25,760
technology is up around 500 gigahertz i

1265
00:57:29,589 --> 00:57:27,119
can't tell you how much i'm looking

1266
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:29,599
forward to seeing

1267
00:57:49,270 --> 00:57:47,270
[Music]

1268
00:57:51,990 --> 00:57:49,280
we're triangulating and converging at

1269
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:52,000
two points the same object it's fake

1270
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:58,309
we could be heading towards the biggest

1271
00:58:03,589 --> 00:58:01,440
sea i told you so in history

1272
00:58:06,230 --> 00:58:03,599
that's what we need the smoking gun

1273
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:06,240
that'll clinch it that once and for all

1274
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:09,760
we'll settle the debate no ifs hands or

1275
00:58:16,710 --> 00:58:12,960
butts and in the process rewrite all of

1276
00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:20,150
oh my god you guys is this the wormhole

1277
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,910
there it is may 3rd is the premiere and

1278
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:33,839
uh

1279
00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:35,680
we'll come back after the break i wanted

1280
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:38,240
to ask you this caroline did you see the

1281
00:58:43,109 --> 00:58:39,359
news

1282
00:58:45,430 --> 00:58:43,119
here in los angeles that broke on friday

1283
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:45,440
uh our local news here

1284
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,960
about the 4.0 earthquake and catalina

1285
00:58:55,750 --> 00:58:50,640
that never happened

1286
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:59,430
actually it was uh 14 miles

1287
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:00,480
south

1288
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:03,280
east of catalina right in

1289
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:05,040
where you shot this film

1290
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:08,160
and you know south of uh san pedro and

1291
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:08,880
so

1292
00:59:14,950 --> 00:59:11,920
the usgs they do the alert 4.0

1293
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:14,960
earthquake at 9 50 a.m

1294
00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:17,040
and they gave the epicenter and then

1295
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:18,480
they said no

1296
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:20,559
all of the shake sensors that's what

1297
00:59:24,150 --> 00:59:22,960
they it's called the shake network

1298
00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,160
uh

1299
00:59:29,270 --> 00:59:26,720
in in in the water and underground did

1300
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:29,280
not pick up an earthquake it was on the

1301
00:59:33,910 --> 00:59:30,640
surface

1302
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:33,920
of 4.0 and they don't know what caused

1303
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:40,069
interesting i mean

1304
00:59:44,630 --> 00:59:42,559
yeah when i i thought of you immediately

1305
00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:44,640
and i knew that we were doing the show

1306
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:46,480
and i just thought to myself

1307
00:59:50,789 --> 00:59:48,000
once again

1308
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:50,799
right catalina island you know between

1309
00:59:56,230 --> 00:59:52,880
catalina and the coastline

1310
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,240
it's it's it's happening and it's been

1311
01:00:01,750 --> 00:59:59,040
very consistent uh there over

1312
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:01,760
over the last few decades i'll send you

1313
01:00:06,470 --> 01:00:04,240
the press release uh later on and you

1314
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,480
can check it out and read through it and

1315
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:08,960
so how do you recall

1316
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,470
but it wasn't an earthquake something

1317
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:20,799
4.0 yeah

1318
01:00:25,349 --> 01:00:23,280
interesting yeah absolutely

1319
01:00:27,430 --> 01:00:25,359
let's take our break right here this is

1320
01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:27,440
fade to black our guest tonight caroline

1321
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,400
corey we're discussing everything

1322
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:32,720
tonight it is

1323
01:00:38,309 --> 01:00:35,520
the science and research behind ufos and

1324
01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:38,319
uaps the physics we're going to get into

1325
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:39,359
all of it

1326
01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:41,040
and we'll be right back after this short

1327
01:00:45,190 --> 01:00:42,480
break this is fade to black and the

1328
01:00:47,430 --> 01:00:45,200
unexit game changer networks racehobs

1329
01:00:49,910 --> 01:00:47,440
i'm your host jimmy church stay with us

1330
01:00:54,190 --> 01:00:49,920
we will be right back after this short

1331
01:00:54,200 --> 01:01:09,109
[Music]

1332
01:01:14,810 --> 01:01:11,349
this is fade to black with jimmy church

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1360
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not by just going to our membership

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hello this is serena wright taylor from

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01:05:18,150 --> 01:05:15,839
conscious life expo and you're listening

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01:05:20,549 --> 01:05:18,160
to fade to black with jimmy church who

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01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:20,559
holds the lucky pony record for the best

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01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:26,000
astrological chart since 1963 true story

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01:05:29,349 --> 01:05:27,680
this is micah hanks of the ghrelian

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01:05:34,790 --> 01:05:29,359
report and you're listening to jimmy

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01:05:53,990 --> 01:05:47,700
[Music]

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01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:54,000
all right welcome back fade to black i

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01:05:58,069 --> 01:05:55,359
am your host jimmy church tonight

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01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:58,079
caroline cory is with us

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01:06:02,829 --> 01:06:01,280
researcher author filmmaker

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01:06:05,510 --> 01:06:02,839
it's so funny is

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01:06:07,750 --> 01:06:05,520
she she has to have everything so

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01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:07,760
perfect she's a director

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01:06:10,630 --> 01:06:08,960
and uh

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01:06:14,630 --> 01:06:10,640
it's just so funny

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01:06:16,390 --> 01:06:14,640
um now uh uh caroline before um the

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01:06:20,470 --> 01:06:16,400
break as we

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01:06:22,630 --> 01:06:20,480
uh watch the trailer i'm reminded of one

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01:06:25,109 --> 01:06:22,640
again we keep talking about fundamentals

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01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:25,119
one fundamental question that we need to

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01:06:28,630 --> 01:06:26,640
start off with

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01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:28,640
what can we do

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01:06:33,910 --> 01:06:31,920
differently not only as a community but

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01:06:38,230 --> 01:06:33,920
you know reaching further

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01:06:41,029 --> 01:06:38,240
to better research ufos and uaps

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01:06:43,510 --> 01:06:41,039
i think it first of all people

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01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:43,520
uh need to come together more

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01:06:50,630 --> 01:06:47,280
because to be honest i see a lot of

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01:06:53,510 --> 01:06:50,640
kind of uh confusion you know between

1450
01:06:56,549 --> 01:06:53,520
different belief systems and criticism

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01:06:58,309 --> 01:06:56,559
or whatever and i think as a community

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01:07:00,390 --> 01:06:58,319
it would be helpful

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01:07:03,670 --> 01:07:00,400
to share more

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01:07:06,069 --> 01:07:03,680
and to be more like a community i think

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01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:06,079
that's lacking a little bit is and what

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01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:08,160
i'm noticing more and more

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01:07:12,789 --> 01:07:09,839
um and

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01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:12,799
keep it at that level of science that's

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01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:15,359
the reason why i made the film i mean

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01:07:20,870 --> 01:07:18,720
i said uh let's not just keep rehashing

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01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:20,880
the same stories let's just go out and

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01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:22,400
do it right

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01:07:26,950 --> 01:07:24,799
you know so i'm hoping with this film it

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01:07:30,630 --> 01:07:26,960
will bring the community together

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01:07:34,390 --> 01:07:30,640
and maybe share you know share more

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01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:34,400
uh the ways that we can continue you

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01:07:41,029 --> 01:07:38,079
know perfecting this uh this research

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01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:41,039
are you going to share the data that you

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01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:44,400
collected uh with the team to make this

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01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:45,680
film

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01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:48,480
yes so so what happens is that uh the

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01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:53,200
uapx team has a lot more data

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01:07:56,390 --> 01:07:54,480
we collected

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01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:56,400
hundreds of hours

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01:08:03,510 --> 01:07:59,760
of footage a camera you know all sorts

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01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:03,520
of um um devices were going on at the

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01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:06,720
same time 24 7. so it's literally

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01:08:11,430 --> 01:08:09,200
hundreds and hundreds of hours of data

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01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:11,440
and we only picked you know the few

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01:08:16,470 --> 01:08:13,920
events obviously that were the most

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01:08:19,349 --> 01:08:16,480
significant for the purpose of the film

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01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:19,359
but after the film is released and

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01:08:24,070 --> 01:08:21,199
there's quite a bit of data in the film

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01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:24,080
obviously after it is released they're

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01:08:29,990 --> 01:08:27,520
going to uh also release publicly all

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01:08:31,829 --> 01:08:30,000
this data and the scientists are are

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01:08:33,749 --> 01:08:31,839
going to talk about

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01:08:35,990 --> 01:08:33,759
um you know they're going to even write

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01:08:38,789 --> 01:08:36,000
a as a peer

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01:08:41,030 --> 01:08:38,799
review a scientific paper for peer

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01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:41,040
review which is amazing you know that

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01:08:47,829 --> 01:08:42,960
hasn't been done

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01:08:50,789 --> 01:08:47,839
now the uh the other approaches um uh we

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01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:50,799
have avi loeb with with the galileo

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01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:53,600
project with the support of harvard

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01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:55,920
which is a that's a really really really

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01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:57,359
big deal

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01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:00,159
and i'm going to be very interested i've

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01:09:06,229 --> 01:09:02,960
spoken to him quite a bit about this

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01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:06,239
about his approach into collecting the

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01:09:10,229 --> 01:09:07,199
data

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01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:10,239
how you collect it is is important and

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01:09:14,789 --> 01:09:12,880
then how you turn around and review the

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01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,799
data there's so many different spectrums

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01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:16,640
that you can look into

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01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:20,159
there's radiation considerations as well

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01:09:24,390 --> 01:09:21,279
as

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01:09:25,590 --> 01:09:24,400
and and of course full spectrum

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01:09:29,030 --> 01:09:25,600
video

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01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:29,040
and telemetry uh that you combine and

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01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:32,400
then triangulation and and air speeds

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01:09:38,789 --> 01:09:35,679
and and where these objects potentially

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01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:38,799
came from and where they are going to

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01:09:43,269 --> 01:09:41,040
that's a lot of data how do you collect

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01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:43,279
this and what kind of instruments are

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01:09:45,749 --> 01:09:44,319
used

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01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:45,759
yeah i mean

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01:09:51,030 --> 01:09:48,400
i think the scientists can talk more

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01:09:53,910 --> 01:09:51,040
about the technical aspects of it but i

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01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:53,920
can tell you that uh for example what we

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01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,960
wanted to do in in our investigation in

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01:10:01,110 --> 01:09:58,719
in the film that we did of course we had

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01:10:03,750 --> 01:10:01,120
the regular ccd cameras that everybody

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01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:03,760
has but then we wanted to have of course

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01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:05,760
the night vision that most people have

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01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:07,199
as well

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01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:10,880
and but then um david mason who is like

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01:10:14,790 --> 01:10:13,280
it was a blessing it was amazing to have

1529
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:14,800
him on the team

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01:10:21,750 --> 01:10:18,000
uh he owned all and all this equipment

1531
01:10:23,510 --> 01:10:21,760
and uh part of that was the flir cameras

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01:10:25,910 --> 01:10:23,520
now the fliers you know i don't know how

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01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:25,920
much people know each flear camera is

1534
01:10:32,229 --> 01:10:28,960
like 50 000 and we're talking about an

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01:10:36,709 --> 01:10:32,239
entire like it's a whole different range

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01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:36,719
of frequency of uh infrared and so

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01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:40,480
um so we had eight of those to cover the

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01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:41,920
entire

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01:10:46,390 --> 01:10:44,159
sky you know because usually people go

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01:10:49,189 --> 01:10:46,400
out and just have like one angle you

1541
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,199
know the camera has that much uh angle

1542
01:10:53,750 --> 01:10:51,679
you know within its own uh the focal

1543
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:53,760
point that you can um

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01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:54,560
uh

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01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:56,719
reach in one with one camera so we had

1546
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,640
to put like a bunch together uh side by

1547
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:02,640
side to have this kind of

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01:11:08,149 --> 01:11:04,880
um to to look at the whole range the

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01:11:10,149 --> 01:11:08,159
entire sky at the same time so this is

1550
01:11:13,189 --> 01:11:10,159
only from an optical point of view but

1551
01:11:14,790 --> 01:11:13,199
then you you want to measure radiation

1552
01:11:17,270 --> 01:11:14,800
so there are different types of

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01:11:19,830 --> 01:11:17,280
radiation

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01:11:22,149 --> 01:11:19,840
devices that we had as well using

1555
01:11:23,830 --> 01:11:22,159
different uh software

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01:11:25,750 --> 01:11:23,840
because

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01:11:27,830 --> 01:11:25,760
when you are trying to do something

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01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:27,840
scientifically what you're looking for

1559
01:11:33,510 --> 01:11:30,719
is correlation time correlations

1560
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:33,520
timestamps so which means that something

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01:11:37,750 --> 01:11:34,640
appears

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01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,760
on one camera at 9 29

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01:11:41,510 --> 01:11:39,440
but then

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01:11:43,910 --> 01:11:41,520
something else showed up exactly at the

1565
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:43,920
same time on this device and that device

1566
01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:46,800
and this other device and there they all

1567
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:49,199
have different types of software and

1568
01:11:53,669 --> 01:11:50,880
technology

1569
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:53,679
so the fact that all of them registered

1570
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:55,840
the exact same thing at the exact same

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01:11:58,870 --> 01:11:56,960
time

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01:12:00,870 --> 01:11:58,880
now you're talking science you're

1573
01:12:05,590 --> 01:12:00,880
talking about correlation time

1574
01:12:06,830 --> 01:12:05,600
correlations uh that is data that can

1575
01:12:11,030 --> 01:12:06,840
now be

1576
01:12:13,030 --> 01:12:11,040
studied now um and

1577
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:13,040
another part of this

1578
01:12:15,590 --> 01:12:14,080
is that

1579
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,600
you need

1580
01:12:19,830 --> 01:12:16,960
it doesn't matter who's doing this

1581
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:19,840
whether it's your team or somebody else

1582
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:23,360
when you've got uh radiation data points

1583
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:26,320
and and it's not you don't have 10 you

1584
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:29,440
don't have 50. you have 10 000 right it

1585
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:33,360
is registering constantly you have got

1586
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:35,280
it doesn't matter who is doing this

1587
01:12:38,310 --> 01:12:36,480
collection

1588
01:12:41,030 --> 01:12:38,320
you've got all of that and you combine

1589
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:41,040
that you have to have humans

1590
01:12:46,630 --> 01:12:43,760
looking at the data and making sense of

1591
01:12:49,189 --> 01:12:46,640
it and then you combine that with all of

1592
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:49,199
the video footage you have to look at

1593
01:12:54,870 --> 01:12:51,440
this you have to have humans

1594
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:54,880
on this interpolate interpolating what

1595
01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:56,880
they are seeing right i mean there isn't

1596
01:13:02,630 --> 01:13:00,480
an automated way to to go about this

1597
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:02,640
no that's that's the idea i mean it

1598
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:05,600
takes hundreds of hours to study the

1599
01:13:09,990 --> 01:13:06,800
data

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01:13:13,350 --> 01:13:10,000
one of the scientists on the team of

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01:13:15,830 --> 01:13:13,360
matthews chidages i i always pronounce

1602
01:13:17,590 --> 01:13:15,840
his name wrong sorry matthew

1603
01:13:19,510 --> 01:13:17,600
he actually

1604
01:13:22,709 --> 01:13:19,520
because he can also write software he

1605
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:22,719
came up with a software to be able to go

1606
01:13:26,070 --> 01:13:23,679
through

1607
01:13:28,310 --> 01:13:26,080
uh the fleer footage very quickly you

1608
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:28,320
know so in other words it's not it's not

1609
01:13:33,030 --> 01:13:30,960
ai because you know who's looking into

1610
01:13:36,229 --> 01:13:33,040
this phenomenon you know who's who's

1611
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:36,239
creating the software and technology for

1612
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:38,400
ufos you know it's kind of like we have

1613
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:41,360
to create this th these things as we go

1614
01:13:46,550 --> 01:13:43,679
along so matthew for example wrote this

1615
01:13:49,669 --> 01:13:46,560
script so that we could go through um

1616
01:13:52,070 --> 01:13:49,679
the hundreds of hours of fleer uh very

1617
01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:52,080
quickly but even with that you you have

1618
01:13:57,030 --> 01:13:54,400
now that you have the radiation

1619
01:13:59,830 --> 01:13:57,040
uh data and you have you know uh

1620
01:14:03,430 --> 01:13:59,840
magnetometers going on and you have all

1621
01:14:07,110 --> 01:14:03,440
kinds of other devices going on and so

1622
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:07,120
what happens is that i mean i was so

1623
01:14:14,149 --> 01:14:11,199
lucky jimmy and blessed that

1624
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:14,159
i mean we shot for five days five days

1625
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:15,440
only

1626
01:14:20,310 --> 01:14:17,199
what are the odds

1627
01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:20,320
that in those five days we're going to

1628
01:14:27,510 --> 01:14:22,159
actually capture

1629
01:14:30,390 --> 01:14:27,520
uh data i mean actual ufos right

1630
01:14:32,630 --> 01:14:30,400
with all of these devices uh correlating

1631
01:14:34,229 --> 01:14:32,640
you know no we've never done it before

1632
01:14:37,110 --> 01:14:34,239
no one's ever done anything like this so

1633
01:14:39,350 --> 01:14:37,120
we have nothing to go by we can't study

1634
01:14:40,950 --> 01:14:39,360
somebody else's research and say look

1635
01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:40,960
how they've done it and they've done it

1636
01:14:45,510 --> 01:14:42,880
and so let's go and do it this way i

1637
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:45,520
mean we were the first one to figure it

1638
01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:50,080
out you know so the fact that we got

1639
01:14:56,470 --> 01:14:54,000
actual ufos registered on our camera

1640
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:56,480
multiple cameras and multiple radiation

1641
01:15:00,390 --> 01:14:57,600
multiple

1642
01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:00,400
data collected at the same time was

1643
01:15:07,030 --> 01:15:03,840
literally a um you know

1644
01:15:08,550 --> 01:15:07,040
a miracle and so but this was just for

1645
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:08,560
the film

1646
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:12,400
then the hundreds of hours that are left

1647
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:14,320
they're still going through it i think

1648
01:15:18,310 --> 01:15:16,159
it's going to take them months and

1649
01:15:20,870 --> 01:15:18,320
months would have to it would have to

1650
01:15:22,870 --> 01:15:20,880
that many clear cameras

1651
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:22,880
running at the same time

1652
01:15:25,830 --> 01:15:24,320
each one is looking at a different

1653
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:25,840
section of the sky

1654
01:15:30,470 --> 01:15:26,800
right

1655
01:15:31,669 --> 01:15:30,480
that's uh that's insane to me uh now

1656
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:31,679
what about

1657
01:15:34,070 --> 01:15:32,560
uh

1658
01:15:37,030 --> 01:15:34,080
somebody

1659
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:37,040
well michio kaku is a a pretty good

1660
01:15:42,310 --> 01:15:39,040
starting point but

1661
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:42,320
another scientist or astrophysicist

1662
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:46,080
to come in that has nothing to do

1663
01:15:49,830 --> 01:15:47,679
with ufos

1664
01:15:52,709 --> 01:15:49,840
doesn't consider that

1665
01:15:53,830 --> 01:15:52,719
and bringing them in to look at the data

1666
01:15:56,709 --> 01:15:53,840
too

1667
01:15:59,189 --> 01:15:56,719
to see what it says to them

1668
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,199
yeah exactly i think that's the idea i

1669
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:02,080
think the the idea of uh doing this

1670
01:16:07,350 --> 01:16:04,560
research first and and uh going through

1671
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:07,360
the data is to then invite that's why

1672
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:09,440
they're writing a scientific paper to

1673
01:16:14,149 --> 01:16:12,320
invite other scientists to say hey this

1674
01:16:16,310 --> 01:16:14,159
is the way we set it up this is the way

1675
01:16:18,709 --> 01:16:16,320
we went about it these this is all the

1676
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:18,719
data this is what it means to us what do

1677
01:16:23,350 --> 01:16:21,360
you think so i mean that's the idea but

1678
01:16:25,990 --> 01:16:23,360
already in the film

1679
01:16:27,590 --> 01:16:26,000
there's quite a bit that we show i mean

1680
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:27,600
you know it's

1681
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:30,000
it's it's a good amount of

1682
01:16:34,870 --> 01:16:33,040
very very compelling crazy stuff

1683
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:34,880
actually

1684
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,679
no

1685
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,840
i want everybody to go and see the film

1686
01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:40,080
and i'm certainly not going to be a

1687
01:16:44,149 --> 01:16:42,960
spoiler of any kind because i i've seen

1688
01:16:46,870 --> 01:16:44,159
the film

1689
01:16:49,270 --> 01:16:46,880
and i've seen specific pieces of footage

1690
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:49,280
over the last few months and

1691
01:16:54,550 --> 01:16:52,320
and even i was at the edge of my seat

1692
01:16:57,430 --> 01:16:54,560
and and wondering how it got all put

1693
01:17:00,830 --> 01:16:57,440
together that being said

1694
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:00,840
you captured something that in my

1695
01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:04,960
opinion has nev i've never seen

1696
01:17:12,149 --> 01:17:08,480
anything like that and i remember uh my

1697
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:12,159
reaction and and and well you were there

1698
01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:14,560
the first time that i saw it

1699
01:17:21,270 --> 01:17:17,120
what came out of my mouth was what am i

1700
01:17:22,390 --> 01:17:21,280
looking at yes what what what this eggs

1701
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:22,400
what

1702
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:26,159
said also

1703
01:17:30,550 --> 01:17:27,280
and and

1704
01:17:33,030 --> 01:17:30,560
um

1705
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,040
i have i have we've all seen things

1706
01:17:37,350 --> 01:17:35,199
right we've all seen things

1707
01:17:38,790 --> 01:17:37,360
we don't necessarily

1708
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:38,800
know

1709
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:41,040
where they came from or how they got

1710
01:17:46,229 --> 01:17:44,400
there or where they go to

1711
01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:46,239
right because all of this happens and

1712
01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:48,560
sometimes it's all very quickly

1713
01:17:53,590 --> 01:17:51,920
and some of it is beyond your vision so

1714
01:17:56,310 --> 01:17:53,600
you don't get a chance to

1715
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:56,320
experience that part of it

1716
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:58,640
you because of all of the data

1717
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:01,040
collection that's going on in real time

1718
01:18:06,630 --> 01:18:03,360
you did happen to capture uh a

1719
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:06,640
phenomenon that i i don't think anybody

1720
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:07,440
uh

1721
01:18:10,950 --> 01:18:08,800
you know what

1722
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:10,960
you read about it in science fiction

1723
01:18:15,910 --> 01:18:13,040
right you might see it

1724
01:18:18,790 --> 01:18:15,920
in the tv series but then to turn around

1725
01:18:21,669 --> 01:18:18,800
and actually get a moment like that

1726
01:18:23,030 --> 01:18:21,679
is is shocking did you even understand

1727
01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:23,040
uh

1728
01:18:26,470 --> 01:18:24,880
what you were looking at

1729
01:18:28,870 --> 01:18:26,480
no that's the thing and i think it's

1730
01:18:31,270 --> 01:18:28,880
okay to mention this i mean people

1731
01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:31,280
really need to go watch the movie

1732
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:35,280
um because it's this is a first i mean

1733
01:18:39,510 --> 01:18:38,560
this is the first time the first ufo

1734
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:39,520
movie

1735
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:42,239
that's been able to capture this type of

1736
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:44,640
data so i think this is the type of film

1737
01:18:48,550 --> 01:18:46,560
that you want to watch over and over

1738
01:18:51,350 --> 01:18:48,560
it's not it's not a romantic comedy you

1739
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:51,360
watch it once i really encourage people

1740
01:18:55,590 --> 01:18:53,600
to get the in fact they can pre-order it

1741
01:18:58,630 --> 01:18:55,600
now

1742
01:19:00,870 --> 01:18:58,640
to start to understand how we did all of

1743
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,880
this and it's okay to mention what

1744
01:19:04,870 --> 01:19:02,719
jimmy's referring to a little bit

1745
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:04,880
without you know giving it away too much

1746
01:19:09,510 --> 01:19:05,840
because

1747
01:19:11,669 --> 01:19:09,520
also the discovery you know you go along

1748
01:19:14,229 --> 01:19:11,679
for the ride but what what you're

1749
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:14,239
talking about what jimmy's talking about

1750
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:18,159
is this phenomenon that we captured um

1751
01:19:23,110 --> 01:19:20,640
towards the end of the

1752
01:19:25,350 --> 01:19:23,120
of our it was the last day actually

1753
01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:25,360
and it's basically

1754
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:28,560
uh what what looked like a cloud

1755
01:19:34,070 --> 01:19:32,239
that opened and closed and

1756
01:19:35,110 --> 01:19:34,080
let me just jump it's the title of the

1757
01:19:37,750 --> 01:19:35,120
film

1758
01:19:40,470 --> 01:19:37,760
yeah yeah which was funny you know

1759
01:19:41,590 --> 01:19:40,480
because i um i

1760
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:41,600
uh

1761
01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:46,960
called the film a tear in the sky two

1762
01:19:50,550 --> 01:19:48,480
years ago

1763
01:19:52,630 --> 01:19:50,560
like i i

1764
01:19:54,950 --> 01:19:52,640
i didn't know i didn't i didn't change

1765
01:19:57,030 --> 01:19:54,960
the title after our discovery or

1766
01:19:59,990 --> 01:19:57,040
anything like that so

1767
01:20:01,590 --> 01:20:00,000
i for some reason i kind of was wanted

1768
01:20:03,830 --> 01:20:01,600
to have something like something that's

1769
01:20:05,669 --> 01:20:03,840
coming from the sky so i called it a

1770
01:20:07,830 --> 01:20:05,679
tear in the sky two years ago and of

1771
01:20:09,910 --> 01:20:07,840
course so basically fast forward what

1772
01:20:12,709 --> 01:20:09,920
we've been talking about it's something

1773
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:12,719
that opens and closes that's kind of

1774
01:20:17,669 --> 01:20:15,120
like a tear it looks it looked like a

1775
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,679
little bit like a cloud and again all

1776
01:20:21,110 --> 01:20:19,280
sorts of measurements and all sorts of

1777
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:21,120
correlations going on

1778
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:22,000
but

1779
01:20:28,229 --> 01:20:24,960
basically what's most intriguing is that

1780
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:28,239
uh there are actual objects in there

1781
01:20:34,149 --> 01:20:31,120
but what is that

1782
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:34,159
it's a crazy moment and and here is

1783
01:20:40,229 --> 01:20:36,960
here's another part uh that

1784
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:40,239
is fascinating kevin day uh who's

1785
01:20:44,830 --> 01:20:42,719
excellent in the film uh who's been on

1786
01:20:46,550 --> 01:20:44,840
this show but he's been

1787
01:20:49,430 --> 01:20:46,560
out uh

1788
01:20:50,629 --> 01:20:49,440
making statements about his experience

1789
01:20:53,189 --> 01:20:50,639
uh

1790
01:20:54,550 --> 01:20:53,199
you know that week it just wasn't you

1791
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:54,560
know one day

1792
01:20:56,950 --> 01:20:55,440
but

1793
01:21:00,470 --> 01:20:56,960
he kept

1794
01:21:02,229 --> 01:21:00,480
saying it was raining ufos

1795
01:21:04,629 --> 01:21:02,239
right and that's that was his thing it

1796
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:04,639
was raining ufos and all of us were

1797
01:21:07,350 --> 01:21:06,000
picturing

1798
01:21:09,750 --> 01:21:07,360
what he could

1799
01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:09,760
uh what he what what he was trying to

1800
01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:12,880
say what what what what is it

1801
01:21:19,590 --> 01:21:17,440
uh what what what is raining ufos

1802
01:21:21,030 --> 01:21:19,600
and then boom

1803
01:21:23,669 --> 01:21:21,040
it's in the film

1804
01:21:27,510 --> 01:21:23,679
it's uh

1805
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:27,520
i i i still i i don't know

1806
01:21:32,390 --> 01:21:30,000
um again everybody just go and watch it

1807
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:32,400
so you can understand

1808
01:21:35,750 --> 01:21:34,400
what we are trying to say here

1809
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:35,760
um now

1810
01:21:40,390 --> 01:21:38,719
uh these objects um

1811
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:40,400
and again a tear in the sky is in the

1812
01:21:43,669 --> 01:21:41,679
name of the film

1813
01:21:45,510 --> 01:21:43,679
and visually well actually you

1814
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:45,520
manifested it two years ago you didn't

1815
01:21:48,310 --> 01:21:46,719
even say that

1816
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:48,320
you manifested it but that's what you

1817
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:50,880
did so um

1818
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:52,639
uh you did

1819
01:21:57,990 --> 01:21:56,639
the objects are there from the vantage

1820
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:58,000
point i'd

1821
01:22:03,669 --> 01:22:01,040
uh it's it's in the movie but i want to

1822
01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:03,679
get to more specifics that isn't in the

1823
01:22:08,709 --> 01:22:04,560
movie

1824
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:08,719
how far away in the triangulation

1825
01:22:12,550 --> 01:22:10,400
was this

1826
01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:12,560
tear in the sky this this this hole in

1827
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:14,480
the clouds i think it was the

1828
01:22:19,270 --> 01:22:16,400
measurements are in the movie but i

1829
01:22:21,270 --> 01:22:19,280
think i want to say five kilometers from

1830
01:22:24,790 --> 01:22:21,280
where we are from where we were we were

1831
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:24,800
on the laguna beach uh side so for

1832
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:26,159
people to know i mean it's in the

1833
01:22:32,229 --> 01:22:29,520
trailer too so we had one team in laguna

1834
01:22:35,350 --> 01:22:32,239
beach and then one team on catalina

1835
01:22:36,470 --> 01:22:35,360
island and then we had a kind of a

1836
01:22:38,390 --> 01:22:36,480
mobile

1837
01:22:40,629 --> 01:22:38,400
team you know that would go off so that

1838
01:22:41,430 --> 01:22:40,639
we achieve three points

1839
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:41,440
so

1840
01:22:52,950 --> 01:22:50,880
it's about five five kilometers

1841
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:52,960
uh i think from where we were i hope i'm

1842
01:22:58,149 --> 01:22:55,199
not mistaken because there's so much

1843
01:23:00,310 --> 01:22:58,159
data and so many numbers

1844
01:23:01,910 --> 01:23:00,320
so it's all in the movie and it's all

1845
01:23:05,189 --> 01:23:01,920
like we show

1846
01:23:08,870 --> 01:23:05,199
how kevin knows actually is the one who

1847
01:23:09,830 --> 01:23:08,880
um shows how he was able to measure the

1848
01:23:11,110 --> 01:23:09,840
angle

1849
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:11,120
the height

1850
01:23:15,590 --> 01:23:13,520
uh the distance i mean it's all there

1851
01:23:19,350 --> 01:23:15,600
and the size of the cloud and what it

1852
01:23:21,910 --> 01:23:19,360
did and the speed i mean all of that is

1853
01:23:23,750 --> 01:23:21,920
very specific in the movie yeah i'm just

1854
01:23:26,629 --> 01:23:23,760
going to say this too as well i came

1855
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:26,639
away from the film uh with this strange

1856
01:23:30,550 --> 01:23:29,199
desire i want to hang out with uh kevin

1857
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:30,560
kevin is a cool

1858
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:32,159
man

1859
01:23:37,189 --> 01:23:34,880
on the money so okay

1860
01:23:39,750 --> 01:23:37,199
we have i want to go back to

1861
01:23:43,510 --> 01:23:39,760
kevin day's and david fraver's

1862
01:23:45,750 --> 01:23:43,520
statements about the size of the tic tac

1863
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:45,760
yeah and they're talking about this over

1864
01:23:50,310 --> 01:23:48,560
and over and again it's now it's it's

1865
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:50,320
part of pop culture right it's inside of

1866
01:23:52,310 --> 01:23:51,520
our heads

1867
01:23:56,149 --> 01:23:52,320
and

1868
01:23:57,189 --> 01:23:56,159
you know 40 feet 20 feet diameter pill

1869
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:57,199
shaped

1870
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:59,199
um and these descriptions are there

1871
01:24:04,390 --> 01:24:00,800
we've looked at all of the

1872
01:24:05,750 --> 01:24:04,400
the cg and the recreations of it

1873
01:24:06,629 --> 01:24:05,760
how close

1874
01:24:10,950 --> 01:24:06,639
are

1875
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:10,960
to what you saw to the size of what

1876
01:24:14,709 --> 01:24:12,239
kevin day

1877
01:24:17,229 --> 01:24:14,719
and david fravor have been reporting but

1878
01:24:19,030 --> 01:24:17,239
that's what was so crazy

1879
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:19,040
crazy

1880
01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:21,760
the objects that we captured on tape

1881
01:24:27,990 --> 01:24:24,639
were the exact same size the range was

1882
01:24:30,790 --> 01:24:28,000
between 35 and 50 feet

1883
01:24:33,110 --> 01:24:30,800
which was the exact same size as the tic

1884
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:33,120
tacs that kevin day and fraver were

1885
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:34,480
talking about

1886
01:24:41,350 --> 01:24:38,880
and the the scientific coalition of uaps

1887
01:24:42,950 --> 01:24:41,360
also had done studies on on the size and

1888
01:24:46,229 --> 01:24:42,960
velocity

1889
01:24:47,669 --> 01:24:46,239
and they also found that measurement

1890
01:24:50,310 --> 01:24:47,679
also to be

1891
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:50,320
around within that range 30 to 50 feet

1892
01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,760
and same with dr knuth's paper also he

1893
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:55,440
wrote about that and this is what we've

1894
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:56,800
calculated

1895
01:25:03,669 --> 01:25:00,239
um on the objects in our movie as well i

1896
01:25:06,550 --> 01:25:03,679
mean crazy right so i mean we and the

1897
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:06,560
objects also some of them have the exact

1898
01:25:09,830 --> 01:25:08,320
same shape

1899
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:09,840
i mean

1900
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:10,840
now

1901
01:25:16,790 --> 01:25:13,760
um uh again i'm not giving anything away

1902
01:25:19,830 --> 01:25:16,800
these are just uh general questions uh

1903
01:25:21,510 --> 01:25:19,840
everybody's really gonna enjoy the movie

1904
01:25:22,390 --> 01:25:21,520
is you have

1905
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:22,400
one

1906
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:23,520
uh

1907
01:25:29,910 --> 01:25:26,480
amazing clear flare shot

1908
01:25:30,950 --> 01:25:29,920
of this tic-tac-shaped object

1909
01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:30,960
and

1910
01:25:35,430 --> 01:25:33,520
is that object

1911
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,440
i've seen the film three times now and i

1912
01:25:41,750 --> 01:25:37,199
can't believe i'm asking this question

1913
01:25:44,390 --> 01:25:41,760
but that object from the tear

1914
01:25:46,950 --> 01:25:44,400
no that's a separate that's a separate

1915
01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:46,960
yeah yeah that's people saw that in the

1916
01:25:53,189 --> 01:25:50,400
in the in the uh trailer it looks

1917
01:25:55,030 --> 01:25:53,199
exactly like the tic tac the navy tic

1918
01:25:56,950 --> 01:25:55,040
tac travels exactly in the same way

1919
01:25:59,590 --> 01:25:56,960
against the wind

1920
01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:59,600
uh so that was one because we captured

1921
01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:01,120
several things

1922
01:26:07,510 --> 01:26:04,000
in the film so this was one event that

1923
01:26:11,270 --> 01:26:07,520
was separate from the tear

1924
01:26:13,990 --> 01:26:11,280
um incredible and flir is forward

1925
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:14,000
looking infrared

1926
01:26:21,350 --> 01:26:17,440
you were capturing on multiple devices

1927
01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:21,360
um with the tear

1928
01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:23,679
what did that look like

1929
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:27,040
with full spectrum normal video

1930
01:26:31,350 --> 01:26:30,400
actually it was on on normal video

1931
01:26:34,149 --> 01:26:31,360
and

1932
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:34,159
interestingly enough see every event had

1933
01:26:37,750 --> 01:26:35,280
very

1934
01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:37,760
interesting things that would happen

1935
01:26:45,510 --> 01:26:41,760
so in that particular instance uh the

1936
01:26:46,629 --> 01:26:45,520
all so it happened at 3 59 a.m the that

1937
01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:46,639
tear

1938
01:26:48,550 --> 01:26:47,440
um

1939
01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:48,560
and

1940
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:51,360
exa like two minutes just before just

1941
01:26:56,470 --> 01:26:53,600
before 3 59 a.m

1942
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:56,480
all the flear cameras go out

1943
01:27:03,030 --> 01:27:00,239
and wait a minute it's 3 59 a.m nobody's

1944
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:03,040
there we're not plugging in any

1945
01:27:07,350 --> 01:27:05,280
anything like sometimes you'd have a you

1946
01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:07,360
know blackout like if you're plugging in

1947
01:27:11,910 --> 01:27:09,679
all of us because we had the camera crew

1948
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:11,920
we have a lot of lighting so sometimes

1949
01:27:15,430 --> 01:27:13,840
we would plug a bunch of stuff and the

1950
01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:15,440
breakers would go off you know what i

1951
01:27:17,110 --> 01:27:16,159
mean

1952
01:27:19,270 --> 01:27:17,120
and

1953
01:27:21,910 --> 01:27:19,280
so that would explain why would why

1954
01:27:25,110 --> 01:27:21,920
would the power go out suddenly but at 3

1955
01:27:27,510 --> 01:27:25,120
59 a.m we're all sleeping actually no i

1956
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:27,520
mean gary was watching the i mean we had

1957
01:27:32,070 --> 01:27:29,760
people watching but we weren't doing

1958
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:32,080
anything and all of a sudden two

1959
01:27:37,030 --> 01:27:34,880
breakers two centers the one that that

1960
01:27:38,470 --> 01:27:37,040
are going to the clear cameras go off at

1961
01:27:41,430 --> 01:27:38,480
the same time

1962
01:27:49,669 --> 01:27:46,310
now now yeah right right

1963
01:27:54,390 --> 01:27:49,679
uh but but my question is

1964
01:27:56,310 --> 01:27:54,400
versus the images that were taken of of

1965
01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:56,320
the tear and the objects

1966
01:28:00,149 --> 01:27:57,840
um

1967
01:28:02,149 --> 01:28:00,159
how did it look on different imaging

1968
01:28:05,110 --> 01:28:02,159
systems i guess that's a better question

1969
01:28:06,950 --> 01:28:05,120
well no it was just the the ccd cameras

1970
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:06,960
is what i'm saying

1971
01:28:11,590 --> 01:28:08,880
yeah that's what i'm saying because the

1972
01:28:13,750 --> 01:28:11,600
flares didn't work exactly exactly at

1973
01:28:15,750 --> 01:28:13,760
that time the flares captured other

1974
01:28:18,229 --> 01:28:15,760
objects on different days

1975
01:28:20,790 --> 01:28:18,239
so every event because it's multiple

1976
01:28:23,350 --> 01:28:20,800
events multiple things that we've

1977
01:28:24,229 --> 01:28:23,360
captured it's not just one thing

1978
01:28:26,310 --> 01:28:24,239
but

1979
01:28:27,910 --> 01:28:26,320
you're okay um

1980
01:28:30,950 --> 01:28:27,920
here's the crazy part well we're going

1981
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:30,960
to take a break but here's the crazy but

1982
01:28:34,149 --> 01:28:32,880
all the radiation

1983
01:28:36,550 --> 01:28:34,159
uh

1984
01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:36,560
picked it up yeah exactly so we had

1985
01:28:42,229 --> 01:28:39,520
other correlations we had other things

1986
01:28:43,910 --> 01:28:42,239
that happened that were completely wild

1987
01:28:44,950 --> 01:28:43,920
was

1988
01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:44,960
the

1989
01:28:53,990 --> 01:28:49,920
radiation high energy burst of 42

1990
01:28:56,709 --> 01:28:54,000
mev 42 i mean the normal is like two

1991
01:28:59,189 --> 01:28:56,719
so 42 mvv is like

1992
01:29:01,910 --> 01:28:59,199
insane you know and it's exactly it's

1993
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:01,920
like yeah it's crazy yeah

1994
01:29:07,910 --> 01:29:04,960
so so so of course we want to look at

1995
01:29:10,149 --> 01:29:07,920
radiation so is it possible that this

1996
01:29:12,070 --> 01:29:10,159
tear happened because of the radiation

1997
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:12,080
maybe those little things

1998
01:29:15,270 --> 01:29:13,040
are

1999
01:29:17,590 --> 01:29:15,280
due to radiation maybe we're looking at

2000
01:29:19,350 --> 01:29:17,600
radiation of course that's the first

2001
01:29:22,310 --> 01:29:19,360
thing that you

2002
01:29:25,350 --> 01:29:22,320
you know you speculate on and so but of

2003
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:25,360
course that wasn't the case because

2004
01:29:30,229 --> 01:29:28,560
if if it was radiation

2005
01:29:31,910 --> 01:29:30,239
it would have happened

2006
01:29:33,510 --> 01:29:31,920
so so we're looking through a camera

2007
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:33,520
right and

2008
01:29:39,990 --> 01:29:37,120
that tear is in one specific spot if

2009
01:29:41,830 --> 01:29:40,000
it's radiation it would be everywhere

2010
01:29:44,070 --> 01:29:41,840
like it's not going to concentrate in

2011
01:29:48,070 --> 01:29:44,080
one spot open and close you see what i

2012
01:29:49,990 --> 01:29:48,080
mean like it's not radiation um also we

2013
01:29:52,229 --> 01:29:50,000
thought maybe it's a solar flare of

2014
01:29:55,270 --> 01:29:52,239
course so you know we looked at maybe

2015
01:29:56,550 --> 01:29:55,280
some solar thing would have triggered

2016
01:29:58,070 --> 01:29:56,560
something

2017
01:30:00,310 --> 01:29:58,080
none of that you know

2018
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,320
don't forget this was the good thing

2019
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:02,639
about working with scientists that were

2020
01:30:09,270 --> 01:30:06,800
very very hardcore scientists not

2021
01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:09,280
not even don't even mention the word

2022
01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:10,800
consciousness or anything

2023
01:30:15,830 --> 01:30:13,840
nuts and bold scientists so in this

2024
01:30:18,070 --> 01:30:15,840
because of that actually it was a good

2025
01:30:21,030 --> 01:30:18,080
thing because they weren't going to look

2026
01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:21,040
at one thing and say oh it's it's

2027
01:30:24,870 --> 01:30:23,199
probably this so it's probably that

2028
01:30:26,390 --> 01:30:24,880
they're going to look at it and say well

2029
01:30:27,669 --> 01:30:26,400
maybe it's this maybe it's this let's

2030
01:30:29,510 --> 01:30:27,679
check this out let's you know what i

2031
01:30:33,350 --> 01:30:29,520
mean so they're going to

2032
01:30:35,430 --> 01:30:33,360
go through a very very rigorous

2033
01:30:38,709 --> 01:30:35,440
you know scientific analysis of the

2034
01:30:40,470 --> 01:30:38,719
thing before coming to any conclusion

2035
01:30:43,270 --> 01:30:40,480
yeah you have to you have to look at the

2036
01:30:46,149 --> 01:30:43,280
atmosphere data you have to look at

2037
01:30:48,390 --> 01:30:46,159
fear not atmosphere not clouds because

2038
01:30:50,629 --> 01:30:48,400
there's sometimes crystal you know the

2039
01:30:52,950 --> 01:30:50,639
way crystals could form through clouds

2040
01:30:55,510 --> 01:30:52,960
or whatever could create a hole not that

2041
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:55,520
it's not that not not the sun not this

2042
01:30:57,830 --> 01:30:56,560
not that

2043
01:30:59,669 --> 01:30:57,840
what is it

2044
01:31:02,790 --> 01:30:59,679
let's take our break right here our

2045
01:31:05,030 --> 01:31:02,800
guest tonight the one and only caroline

2046
01:31:08,790 --> 01:31:05,040
corey i am your host jimmy church

2047
01:31:11,110 --> 01:31:08,800
talking about the science behind ufo and

2048
01:31:12,870 --> 01:31:11,120
uap research

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this is peyton black i'm your host jimmy

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01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:13,920
church

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01:31:19,669 --> 01:31:16,960
more with core carolina

2052
01:31:24,330 --> 01:31:19,679
corey and her new film a tear in the sky

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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2092
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2093
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2094
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supply i do disruptions in the food

2095
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01:35:11,430 --> 01:35:06,629
you are listening to fade to black with

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01:35:16,870 --> 01:35:13,910
hi i'm rhys evans you're listening to

2127
01:35:19,669 --> 01:35:16,880
jimmy church this is revolution the

2128
01:35:22,950 --> 01:35:19,679
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01:35:26,580 --> 01:35:22,960
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01:36:05,510 --> 01:35:58,700
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01:36:07,910 --> 01:36:05,520
[Music]

2133
01:36:09,590 --> 01:36:07,920
all right welcome back fade to black i

2134
01:36:12,149 --> 01:36:09,600
am your host jimmy church tonight

2135
01:36:15,669 --> 01:36:12,159
caroline corey is with us

2136
01:36:20,470 --> 01:36:15,679
tonight we're discussing the science

2137
01:36:21,750 --> 01:36:20,480
uh that needs to be behind ufo and uap

2138
01:36:24,790 --> 01:36:21,760
research

2139
01:36:27,750 --> 01:36:24,800
and uh as i'm waiting uh for caroline to

2140
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:27,760
come back and join us

2141
01:36:31,189 --> 01:36:29,440
uh there she is

2142
01:36:32,790 --> 01:36:31,199
she's right here everybody you don't

2143
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:32,800
have to uh

2144
01:36:36,950 --> 01:36:34,560
you don't have to freak out

2145
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:36,960
and uh hold on i i've got you caroline

2146
01:36:43,109 --> 01:36:40,320
there you are and um

2147
01:36:47,750 --> 01:36:43,119
what is the deal

2148
01:36:50,709 --> 01:36:47,760
off the coast of san diego all the way

2149
01:36:52,470 --> 01:36:50,719
up uh to malibu right we have that big

2150
01:36:56,149 --> 01:36:52,480
chunk of coastline

2151
01:36:59,510 --> 01:36:56,159
where there is ufo and uap action on a

2152
01:37:01,350 --> 01:36:59,520
nightly basis i used to say to people

2153
01:37:03,750 --> 01:37:01,360
if you really there's a few places you

2154
01:37:05,189 --> 01:37:03,760
can go you can go to joshua tree you're

2155
01:37:07,270 --> 01:37:05,199
you're probably going to see something

2156
01:37:09,910 --> 01:37:07,280
out there right come out here to the

2157
01:37:12,390 --> 01:37:09,920
mojave desert where i'm at in palmdale

2158
01:37:16,070 --> 01:37:12,400
you're going to see something

2159
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:16,080
go to the go to the go go to marina del

2160
01:37:19,030 --> 01:37:16,960
rey

2161
01:37:21,430 --> 01:37:19,040
and look west

2162
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:21,440
right your goal what is it about that

2163
01:37:23,669 --> 01:37:22,719
area

2164
01:37:25,430 --> 01:37:23,679
yeah

2165
01:37:28,310 --> 01:37:25,440
so um

2166
01:37:30,950 --> 01:37:28,320
i personally believe there's a a very

2167
01:37:34,950 --> 01:37:30,960
strong magnetic anomaly there

2168
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:34,960
and so in fact i think

2169
01:37:40,149 --> 01:37:38,560
you can see it from a map like i think

2170
01:37:42,070 --> 01:37:40,159
if you look at the

2171
01:37:44,390 --> 01:37:42,080
magnetic field

2172
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:44,400
uh map

2173
01:37:48,550 --> 01:37:46,239
i don't know if i saw it somewhere or

2174
01:37:48,980 --> 01:37:48,560
maybe no that's not the map but i mean

2175
01:37:50,310 --> 01:37:48,990
um

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01:37:51,990 --> 01:37:50,320
[Music]

2177
01:37:53,990 --> 01:37:52,000
there is a map that i looked at and you

2178
01:37:57,590 --> 01:37:54,000
could literally see

2179
01:38:01,109 --> 01:37:57,600
a very strong concentration

2180
01:38:03,990 --> 01:38:01,119
of of energy there and it's like the the

2181
01:38:06,790 --> 01:38:04,000
magnetic field kind of goes in and out

2182
01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:06,800
and i think that's what's causing

2183
01:38:12,550 --> 01:38:10,000
uh all of these sightings

2184
01:38:15,590 --> 01:38:12,560
are you saying that uh

2185
01:38:17,830 --> 01:38:15,600
an extraterrestrial civilization

2186
01:38:20,629 --> 01:38:17,840
um is attracted to that they would see

2187
01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:20,639
it like on their radar okay let's whoa

2188
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:22,159
you know check out

2189
01:38:27,189 --> 01:38:24,960
check out this area or have they just

2190
01:38:29,109 --> 01:38:27,199
been there for a long time and and

2191
01:38:31,030 --> 01:38:29,119
that's like their hangout

2192
01:38:33,350 --> 01:38:31,040
i mean that's my theory of course now

2193
01:38:36,229 --> 01:38:33,360
we're talking you know science

2194
01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:36,239
is not there yet but that's my theory i

2195
01:38:39,990 --> 01:38:37,840
think the way

2196
01:38:42,629 --> 01:38:40,000
um you're able to

2197
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:42,639
uh travel through space

2198
01:38:49,350 --> 01:38:45,679
at great distances very quickly is

2199
01:38:51,910 --> 01:38:49,360
through these uh magnetic um anomalies

2200
01:38:53,669 --> 01:38:51,920
that are called i call them nodes you

2201
01:38:57,590 --> 01:38:53,679
know there are specific

2202
01:38:59,590 --> 01:38:57,600
parts points within the magnetic field

2203
01:39:02,310 --> 01:38:59,600
where it's so

2204
01:39:04,310 --> 01:39:02,320
strongly charged magnetically that it

2205
01:39:07,590 --> 01:39:04,320
allows you to kind of

2206
01:39:09,910 --> 01:39:07,600
um move from one point to another

2207
01:39:11,510 --> 01:39:09,920
instantaneously i think that's why they

2208
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:11,520
it looks like they appear and then they

2209
01:39:14,149 --> 01:39:12,880
disappear

2210
01:39:16,390 --> 01:39:14,159
and so

2211
01:39:19,189 --> 01:39:16,400
yeah no go ahead go ahead

2212
01:39:22,149 --> 01:39:19,199
and so in that particular area this is

2213
01:39:24,709 --> 01:39:22,159
where uh there is a magnetic anomaly

2214
01:39:27,669 --> 01:39:24,719
that one of those nodes and so that's

2215
01:39:29,990 --> 01:39:27,679
the reason why this is where

2216
01:39:32,070 --> 01:39:30,000
the those ships i mean we can see those

2217
01:39:35,030 --> 01:39:32,080
ships right there and it's not the only

2218
01:39:37,510 --> 01:39:35,040
place like in utah there's a few points

2219
01:39:39,830 --> 01:39:37,520
i mean they're in in um in off of the

2220
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:39,840
coast of florida i mean there's

2221
01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:41,840
everywhere there are 12

2222
01:39:45,830 --> 01:39:44,000
main points around the planet and then

2223
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:45,840
there's like kind of smaller nodes

2224
01:39:51,750 --> 01:39:47,920
smaller points as well

2225
01:39:54,149 --> 01:39:51,760
now what do you make of the is that my

2226
01:39:56,629 --> 01:39:54,159
phone it's mine and i i don't understand

2227
01:39:58,390 --> 01:39:56,639
because i muted like everything so i

2228
01:39:59,270 --> 01:39:58,400
don't know what else to do okay what i'm

2229
01:40:04,870 --> 01:39:59,280
gonna do

2230
01:40:09,669 --> 01:40:06,470
you know what happened to me today

2231
01:40:11,669 --> 01:40:09,679
speaking of airplane mode

2232
01:40:14,470 --> 01:40:11,679
it's bizarre that you bring this up yeah

2233
01:40:17,669 --> 01:40:14,480
i love synchronicities i swear i have

2234
01:40:20,629 --> 01:40:17,679
not said the words airplane mode

2235
01:40:23,109 --> 01:40:20,639
i i don't maybe maybe in my life

2236
01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:23,119
okay i don't know when i've ever said

2237
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:26,639
airplane mode so today

2238
01:40:31,910 --> 01:40:29,119
i update my iphone

2239
01:40:33,350 --> 01:40:31,920
okay update my iphone all morning i'm on

2240
01:40:35,030 --> 01:40:33,360
the phone i'm taking calls taking calls

2241
01:40:36,229 --> 01:40:35,040
taking calls talking to you right you

2242
01:40:39,510 --> 01:40:36,239
know i'm on the phone on the phone on

2243
01:40:41,270 --> 01:40:39,520
the phone and uh and then uh i do the

2244
01:40:43,830 --> 01:40:41,280
update got a little break in the action

2245
01:40:46,149 --> 01:40:43,840
i do the update

2246
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:46,159
no phone calls

2247
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:49,280
and i found that strange and then

2248
01:40:54,790 --> 01:40:52,560
uh next month there's a reason for this

2249
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:54,800
next month i'm i've got a big meeting

2250
01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:56,639
set up and i've got to go and do this

2251
01:41:01,910 --> 01:40:57,440
and

2252
01:41:04,390 --> 01:41:01,920
uh from somebody about this meeting

2253
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:04,400
going dude i keep trying to pick up your

2254
01:41:07,270 --> 01:41:05,199
phone

2255
01:41:10,229 --> 01:41:07,280
i said you haven't called

2256
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:10,239
and now we're texting right okay

2257
01:41:17,990 --> 01:41:16,950
that's weird

2258
01:41:22,149 --> 01:41:18,000
and

2259
01:41:24,070 --> 01:41:22,159
couldn't pick him up anyway now let's

2260
01:41:25,910 --> 01:41:24,080
get to the end of the story airplane

2261
01:41:28,629 --> 01:41:25,920
mode

2262
01:41:33,669 --> 01:41:28,639
two hours goes by my phone doesn't ring

2263
01:41:37,030 --> 01:41:33,679
once that is an improbability confirmed

2264
01:41:38,709 --> 01:41:37,040
in science my phone rings all day long

2265
01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:38,719
right and i go through like two hours

2266
01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:41,280
i'm like wow it's kind of weird

2267
01:41:47,030 --> 01:41:43,920
so i go to make a phone call and it

2268
01:41:47,750 --> 01:41:47,040
won't dial out hmm

2269
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:47,760
i

2270
01:42:01,030 --> 01:41:58,320
okay

2271
01:42:04,629 --> 01:42:01,040
go into settings and

2272
01:42:08,550 --> 01:42:04,639
go to airplane mode all of this is

2273
01:42:10,629 --> 01:42:08,560
on a chat i can't call verizon right

2274
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,639
and i said okay so i go to my set i said

2275
01:42:14,629 --> 01:42:12,320
airplane mode is off

2276
01:42:18,550 --> 01:42:14,639
the rep says exactly

2277
01:42:21,189 --> 01:42:18,560
turn airplane mode on and off and then

2278
01:42:22,550 --> 01:42:21,199
and dial a phone number i went no it

2279
01:42:25,510 --> 01:42:22,560
can't be what

2280
01:42:26,390 --> 01:42:25,520
so i turn airplane mode on and off

2281
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:26,400
right

2282
01:42:31,270 --> 01:42:30,080
and i call my friend and the call goes

2283
01:42:32,870 --> 01:42:31,280
through

2284
01:42:34,709 --> 01:42:32,880
and and the chat

2285
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:34,719
verizon rep goes did that work and i

2286
01:42:37,990 --> 01:42:36,159
said it did

2287
01:42:40,830 --> 01:42:38,000
bye

2288
01:42:44,310 --> 01:42:40,840
airplane so the recent update

2289
01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:44,320
on for iphones it's going to

2290
01:42:48,790 --> 01:42:46,560
automatically turn on your airplane mode

2291
01:42:51,590 --> 01:42:48,800
even though the button is off and you

2292
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:51,600
can't dial out or take phone calls

2293
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:53,600
yeah it's weird but you know sometimes

2294
01:42:58,149 --> 01:42:55,440
like i don't know if this happened to

2295
01:42:59,830 --> 01:42:58,159
anyone and you know i hope somebody will

2296
01:43:01,669 --> 01:42:59,840
say something in the chat

2297
01:43:02,709 --> 01:43:01,679
but it happens to me

2298
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:02,719
often

2299
01:43:07,189 --> 01:43:05,199
sometimes the tv is off

2300
01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:07,199
completely off

2301
01:43:11,590 --> 01:43:09,199
and then you know like the netflix

2302
01:43:14,390 --> 01:43:11,600
things comes on the you know whatever

2303
01:43:16,070 --> 01:43:14,400
that like it there's sound that comes

2304
01:43:18,870 --> 01:43:16,080
out of it even though it's completely

2305
01:43:20,629 --> 01:43:18,880
off or a song on the radio when the

2306
01:43:22,709 --> 01:43:20,639
radio is off

2307
01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:22,719
has that ever happened to you all the

2308
01:43:28,149 --> 01:43:25,119
time seriously

2309
01:43:31,510 --> 01:43:29,830
you know how do you explain that

2310
01:43:34,229 --> 01:43:31,520
scientifically tell me how do you

2311
01:43:36,149 --> 01:43:34,239
explain that scientifically

2312
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:36,159
i i i'm going to explain it to you

2313
01:43:39,990 --> 01:43:37,679
scientifically

2314
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:40,000
that those phones

2315
01:43:48,149 --> 01:43:43,760
and your smart tv and your smart world

2316
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:48,159
is always on and it's all interconnected

2317
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:51,040
every moment of your day

2318
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:55,360
is is followed tracked logged and stored

2319
01:44:01,109 --> 01:43:58,159
and it's a it's a data point

2320
01:44:04,709 --> 01:44:01,119
and and and but here's the thing

2321
01:44:07,350 --> 01:44:04,719
when i'll give you an example especially

2322
01:44:08,229 --> 01:44:07,360
with android apple's pretty bad with it

2323
01:44:10,950 --> 01:44:08,239
too

2324
01:44:12,149 --> 01:44:10,960
but android you log out of your phone

2325
01:44:13,910 --> 01:44:12,159
you turn your

2326
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:13,920
you think

2327
01:44:21,270 --> 01:44:18,560
you're you're out of and chrome is is is

2328
01:44:23,590 --> 01:44:21,280
which is google which is android so

2329
01:44:29,510 --> 01:44:23,600
chrome on your

2330
01:44:32,629 --> 01:44:29,520
using chrome which i do um all of this

2331
01:44:34,390 --> 01:44:32,639
is interconnected so they now know

2332
01:44:36,070 --> 01:44:34,400
where you are

2333
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:36,080
you don't think you're you're driving

2334
01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:38,159
around in your car you go to the store

2335
01:44:42,709 --> 01:44:40,320
all of this comes back

2336
01:44:44,310 --> 01:44:42,719
everything is on all the time and then

2337
01:44:45,750 --> 01:44:44,320
you wonder

2338
01:44:47,510 --> 01:44:45,760
you know so

2339
01:44:50,229 --> 01:44:47,520
you're at the store

2340
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:50,239
and you make a purchase and you say

2341
01:44:55,270 --> 01:44:52,480
something and

2342
01:44:56,950 --> 01:44:55,280
like man i haven't bought haagen-dazs in

2343
01:44:59,270 --> 01:44:56,960
a long time

2344
01:45:01,750 --> 01:44:59,280
hmm it's on sale today and you just

2345
01:45:04,229 --> 01:45:01,760
verbalize you say this to your

2346
01:45:06,550 --> 01:45:04,239
husband or wife you put the haagen-dazs

2347
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:06,560
in your cart and you go home and you

2348
01:45:09,750 --> 01:45:08,960
suddenly see haagen-dazs

2349
01:45:11,350 --> 01:45:09,760
right

2350
01:45:14,310 --> 01:45:11,360
in your feed

2351
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:14,320
now you're going to tell me

2352
01:45:19,990 --> 01:45:18,239
you're not listening yeah right and

2353
01:45:22,070 --> 01:45:20,000
and you know you haven't bought

2354
01:45:22,950 --> 01:45:22,080
haagen-dazs in two years

2355
01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:22,960
right

2356
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:24,719
you haven't said the words haagen-dazs

2357
01:45:28,470 --> 01:45:26,239
but all of a sudden you do the purchase

2358
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:28,480
and it pops up in your feed i am so

2359
01:45:34,310 --> 01:45:31,199
acclimated to this now caroline every

2360
01:45:36,390 --> 01:45:34,320
aspect of our lives is completely logged

2361
01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,400
and and done so yes

2362
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:38,800
you know your smart tv communicating to

2363
01:45:42,070 --> 01:45:39,920
your phone

2364
01:45:44,310 --> 01:45:42,080
communicating to your car back to your

2365
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:44,320
laptop and then everything else being

2366
01:45:48,149 --> 01:45:46,719
tracked in between it's so it's the

2367
01:45:50,149 --> 01:45:48,159
world that we live in i don't think

2368
01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:50,159
people care anymore

2369
01:45:53,750 --> 01:45:50,880
yeah

2370
01:45:55,750 --> 01:45:53,760
we know that's the case it's just funny

2371
01:45:57,830 --> 01:45:55,760
when it actually happens like when it

2372
01:45:59,910 --> 01:45:57,840
looks like okay everything's supposed to

2373
01:46:02,709 --> 01:45:59,920
be off but then it's just happening on

2374
01:46:04,470 --> 01:46:02,719
its own making noise on its own i was

2375
01:46:06,070 --> 01:46:04,480
watching uh

2376
01:46:08,550 --> 01:46:06,080
i was watching

2377
01:46:10,790 --> 01:46:08,560
the interrogation of zuckerberg in in

2378
01:46:13,109 --> 01:46:10,800
the senate right so i was watching this

2379
01:46:16,149 --> 01:46:13,119
a couple of days ago and

2380
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:16,159
this senator asked zuckerberg

2381
01:46:22,149 --> 01:46:19,199
uh would you uh please tell uh

2382
01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:22,159
uh this committee um what hotel you

2383
01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:24,239
stayed in last night

2384
01:46:29,910 --> 01:46:27,440
and zuckerberg goes uh i'm uncomfortable

2385
01:46:31,590 --> 01:46:29,920
uh sharing that information with you and

2386
01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:31,600
he goes

2387
01:46:35,669 --> 01:46:34,400
you expect everybody else on facebook to

2388
01:46:36,470 --> 01:46:35,679
care

2389
01:46:38,229 --> 01:46:36,480
and

2390
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:38,239
they don't want people to know their

2391
01:46:42,629 --> 01:46:40,239
location or where they're staying at but

2392
01:46:46,390 --> 01:46:42,639
you're okay with that and collecting

2393
01:46:47,830 --> 01:46:46,400
that data and selling it to a to a hotel

2394
01:46:49,830 --> 01:46:47,840
right

2395
01:46:51,830 --> 01:46:49,840
and and zuckerberg's look

2396
01:46:54,470 --> 01:46:51,840
right and it was the it's the most

2397
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:54,480
obvious thing to say yeah right

2398
01:47:00,229 --> 01:46:56,719
zuckerberg i just want people to know

2399
01:47:02,790 --> 01:47:00,239
this yeah yeah but okay was selling this

2400
01:47:05,510 --> 01:47:02,800
information that he and everybody else

2401
01:47:06,790 --> 01:47:05,520
including the hotel you stayed at last

2402
01:47:09,910 --> 01:47:06,800
night

2403
01:47:12,870 --> 01:47:09,920
yeah yeah this is the and then also i

2404
01:47:15,910 --> 01:47:12,880
mean there's all this stuff why is it so

2405
01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:15,920
impossible to think that

2406
01:47:20,390 --> 01:47:18,480
you know we could be communicating

2407
01:47:23,109 --> 01:47:20,400
you know energetically as well in other

2408
01:47:24,550 --> 01:47:23,119
words like if everything is so easily

2409
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:24,560
connected like

2410
01:47:29,109 --> 01:47:27,040
could we also be triggering

2411
01:47:31,030 --> 01:47:29,119
this stuff ourselves does that make

2412
01:47:33,030 --> 01:47:31,040
sense like

2413
01:47:35,030 --> 01:47:33,040
are you what the chat just said hadley

2414
01:47:38,229 --> 01:47:35,040
just said you can turn that off no you

2415
01:47:40,070 --> 01:47:38,239
can't you may think you're turning it

2416
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:40,080
off

2417
01:47:46,229 --> 01:47:42,320
that's what i was saying the tel the tv

2418
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:46,239
is off it's off and sometimes yeah

2419
01:47:50,870 --> 01:47:49,280
and i think in evp research ben hansen

2420
01:47:53,030 --> 01:47:50,880
did a lot of that

2421
01:47:54,950 --> 01:47:53,040
sometimes it's even unplugged like

2422
01:47:57,830 --> 01:47:54,960
there's no batteries

2423
01:48:00,070 --> 01:47:57,840
in the device and it's totally like not

2424
01:48:01,830 --> 01:48:00,080
even plugged in how do you

2425
01:48:03,270 --> 01:48:01,840
then that's a whole conversation that's

2426
01:48:05,910 --> 01:48:03,280
a different conversation but anyway

2427
01:48:08,629 --> 01:48:05,920
let's go back to ufos

2428
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:08,639
i used to think it was consciousness

2429
01:48:13,430 --> 01:48:12,000
right i it is consciousness

2430
01:48:16,310 --> 01:48:13,440
so one

2431
01:48:17,189 --> 01:48:16,320
one day i go out and

2432
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:17,199
and

2433
01:48:20,229 --> 01:48:18,880
i had to drive the coast i was hosting

2434
01:48:22,550 --> 01:48:20,239
coast to coast

2435
01:48:24,629 --> 01:48:22,560
and and uh

2436
01:48:26,550 --> 01:48:24,639
as everybody knows i was hosting friday

2437
01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:26,560
saturday and sometime sunday right on

2438
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:29,360
the weekends and uh never monday tuesday

2439
01:48:32,950 --> 01:48:31,280
wednesday thursday right i'm doing fade

2440
01:48:34,709 --> 01:48:32,960
to black on those days and

2441
01:48:38,149 --> 01:48:34,719
so i'm going out

2442
01:48:42,470 --> 01:48:38,159
to the car to get uh and drive to coast

2443
01:48:43,990 --> 01:48:42,480
i get in my car and my phone beeps

2444
01:48:47,350 --> 01:48:44,000
10 minutes

2445
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:47,360
to i heart radio right

2446
01:48:53,910 --> 01:48:50,560
yeah it's your lifetime now how i did

2447
01:48:56,470 --> 01:48:53,920
how what and so i thought to myself

2448
01:48:57,430 --> 01:48:56,480
no they they did they they don't know

2449
01:49:00,470 --> 01:48:57,440
that

2450
01:49:03,189 --> 01:49:00,480
it's it's maybe maybe i manifested this

2451
01:49:04,470 --> 01:49:03,199
thought it's my consciousness going into

2452
01:49:06,550 --> 01:49:04,480
the phone

2453
01:49:07,750 --> 01:49:06,560
and it's just giving me a helpful drive

2454
01:49:09,750 --> 01:49:07,760
time tip

2455
01:49:11,990 --> 01:49:09,760
but uh yeah i used to think it was

2456
01:49:13,669 --> 01:49:12,000
consciousness not so much anymore

2457
01:49:14,629 --> 01:49:13,679
they're just listening to everything all

2458
01:49:18,709 --> 01:49:14,639
the time

2459
01:49:20,629 --> 01:49:18,719
um back to um uh catalina island though

2460
01:49:21,510 --> 01:49:20,639
yes um

2461
01:49:23,669 --> 01:49:21,520
the

2462
01:49:26,470 --> 01:49:23,679
department of defense

2463
01:49:30,390 --> 01:49:26,480
appears to be very interested in in

2464
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:30,400
catalina and and and and the the ocean

2465
01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:31,920
uh between

2466
01:49:36,950 --> 01:49:34,480
uh the navy bases in san diego up to

2467
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:36,960
catalina of course we have point magoo

2468
01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:39,360
and uh those installations up there with

2469
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:41,199
the navy and the marines up uh near

2470
01:49:43,189 --> 01:49:42,400
malibu

2471
01:49:45,510 --> 01:49:43,199
um

2472
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:45,520
and i have been

2473
01:49:50,709 --> 01:49:47,760
i've got friends that live in the area

2474
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:50,719
and i get photographs all the time of

2475
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:53,360
these deployments that are out there

2476
01:49:58,629 --> 01:49:54,719
and that

2477
01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:58,639
to me it seems that they are also very

2478
01:50:02,550 --> 01:50:00,719
interested in the area and i don't think

2479
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:02,560
it's a coincidence with the with the

2480
01:50:05,910 --> 01:50:03,679
nimitz

2481
01:50:07,990 --> 01:50:05,920
we only know and we've had other

2482
01:50:11,189 --> 01:50:08,000
incidents since then

2483
01:50:12,790 --> 01:50:11,199
and are you are you happy about the data

2484
01:50:16,390 --> 01:50:12,800
collection and the focus that the

2485
01:50:18,629 --> 01:50:16,400
military is putting on this uh area and

2486
01:50:21,270 --> 01:50:18,639
do you think that they are going to be

2487
01:50:23,109 --> 01:50:21,280
sharing what they find

2488
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:23,119
yeah so to answer your first question

2489
01:50:27,350 --> 01:50:25,280
you know the nimitz was the first

2490
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,360
incident in 2004

2491
01:50:31,350 --> 01:50:29,280
but then there were other ones that we

2492
01:50:33,669 --> 01:50:31,360
know of yeah of course right and then

2493
01:50:36,709 --> 01:50:33,679
and then there were other ones the uss

2494
01:50:39,030 --> 01:50:36,719
omaha the uss kid i believe or is that

2495
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:41,109
and then there's a third one roosevelt i

2496
01:50:46,709 --> 01:50:44,320
know is is off of the east coast but uh

2497
01:50:50,709 --> 01:50:46,719
but there's like especially the uss

2498
01:50:53,589 --> 01:50:50,719
omaha i remember there was uh swarms of

2499
01:50:55,910 --> 01:50:53,599
tic tacs uh remember that incident in

2500
01:50:57,109 --> 01:50:55,920
2015 2017

2501
01:51:00,149 --> 01:50:57,119
and so

2502
01:51:03,030 --> 01:51:00,159
so the it's so it's all in the same area

2503
01:51:04,950 --> 01:51:03,040
what's going on you know why

2504
01:51:06,790 --> 01:51:04,960
and so so i

2505
01:51:08,870 --> 01:51:06,800
i know i mean

2506
01:51:11,350 --> 01:51:08,880
that's actually one of the reason why we

2507
01:51:12,950 --> 01:51:11,360
decided to go back there as well

2508
01:51:15,750 --> 01:51:12,960
you know because we had the guys from

2509
01:51:18,709 --> 01:51:15,760
the nimitz uh in the movie but also

2510
01:51:20,629 --> 01:51:18,719
because it keeps happening in that area

2511
01:51:22,870 --> 01:51:20,639
and i think because of that and i think

2512
01:51:25,589 --> 01:51:22,880
the more we talk about it and the more

2513
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:25,599
we bring out data and we more the more

2514
01:51:30,629 --> 01:51:28,239
we push push push i think

2515
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:30,639
uh just like this uh recent thousand

2516
01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:32,639
page report that just came out from the

2517
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:35,040
from the pentagon i think the more we

2518
01:51:40,950 --> 01:51:38,639
push and the more we put out data uh the

2519
01:51:43,270 --> 01:51:40,960
more the government is is gonna have to

2520
01:51:44,870 --> 01:51:43,280
do the same the navy and you know kind

2521
01:51:47,510 --> 01:51:44,880
of to at least

2522
01:51:50,229 --> 01:51:47,520
say that hey we also know you know

2523
01:51:52,470 --> 01:51:50,239
because we're to be honest jimmy we're

2524
01:51:54,470 --> 01:51:52,480
ahead of the game i mean who else is out

2525
01:51:57,270 --> 01:51:54,480
there who else who else is presenting

2526
01:52:00,390 --> 01:51:57,280
that sort of data

2527
01:52:02,470 --> 01:52:00,400
the answer is nobody and let me take it

2528
01:52:03,430 --> 01:52:02,480
one step further

2529
01:52:06,629 --> 01:52:03,440
the

2530
01:52:08,790 --> 01:52:06,639
task force whatever name it has now

2531
01:52:11,510 --> 01:52:08,800
right has been formed

2532
01:52:15,830 --> 01:52:11,520
and they are collecting data

2533
01:52:17,910 --> 01:52:15,840
but what is the data and who is going to

2534
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:17,920
analyze it are they going to bring in

2535
01:52:22,149 --> 01:52:20,560
you know kevin knew right or

2536
01:52:24,149 --> 01:52:22,159
outside

2537
01:52:27,350 --> 01:52:24,159
non-governmental

2538
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:27,360
influenced or employed scientists and

2539
01:52:31,830 --> 01:52:30,159
physicists to look at the data with an

2540
01:52:34,390 --> 01:52:31,840
independent mind

2541
01:52:36,310 --> 01:52:34,400
exactly that's that's the problem

2542
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:36,320
so i'm sure they've investigated they've

2543
01:52:39,750 --> 01:52:38,000
done a lot of investigations but we

2544
01:52:42,149 --> 01:52:39,760
don't know anything they're not sharing

2545
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:42,159
it with us so so we can't

2546
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:44,080
so we can't trust it i think that's the

2547
01:52:48,390 --> 01:52:45,920
reason why i made this movie it's like

2548
01:52:51,109 --> 01:52:48,400
let's go out and do it ourselves

2549
01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:51,119
and share the data and have a real

2550
01:52:57,030 --> 01:52:54,239
conversation and i think because of that

2551
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:57,040
we're going to be forcing more and more

2552
01:53:01,669 --> 01:52:59,440
the government to to put out their own

2553
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:01,679
data that's what i'm hoping

2554
01:53:07,990 --> 01:53:03,760
do you think that there should be

2555
01:53:09,270 --> 01:53:08,000
uh a uap a ufo czar

2556
01:53:15,750 --> 01:53:09,280
somebody

2557
01:53:18,070 --> 01:53:15,760
coordination between the nsa the cia the

2558
01:53:20,310 --> 01:53:18,080
fbi the navy the air force the marines

2559
01:53:23,430 --> 01:53:20,320
the army um

2560
01:53:26,149 --> 01:53:23,440
all of the agencies the faa to collect

2561
01:53:27,990 --> 01:53:26,159
all of this data and to make sure that a

2562
01:53:29,830 --> 01:53:28,000
it's retrieved and second that it's

2563
01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:29,840
actually looked at

2564
01:53:35,750 --> 01:53:32,800
by somebody independent should we have

2565
01:53:37,589 --> 01:53:35,760
an appointed ufo czar

2566
01:53:38,550 --> 01:53:37,599
of course absolutely but who would that

2567
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:38,560
be

2568
01:53:47,189 --> 01:53:44,149
i am honestly the most like neutral

2569
01:53:50,950 --> 01:53:47,199
person out there because i

2570
01:53:53,750 --> 01:53:50,960
uh i'm from i come from the point of

2571
01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:53,760
view of consciousness of understanding

2572
01:53:59,430 --> 01:53:56,960
the mechanics of life you know ufo is

2573
01:54:02,950 --> 01:53:59,440
not the only subject i'm interested in

2574
01:54:05,109 --> 01:54:02,960
and so i'm not like partial to anything

2575
01:54:06,950 --> 01:54:05,119
i just want to bring out the truth and

2576
01:54:08,550 --> 01:54:06,960
so so i think

2577
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:08,560
you know it needs to be

2578
01:54:14,790 --> 01:54:11,280
you know someone or an entity

2579
01:54:16,390 --> 01:54:14,800
that is absolutely unbiased you know and

2580
01:54:17,350 --> 01:54:16,400
is really

2581
01:54:19,990 --> 01:54:17,360
just

2582
01:54:23,109 --> 01:54:20,000
working for the sake of the truth for

2583
01:54:24,550 --> 01:54:23,119
the people you know and so yeah if you

2584
01:54:26,149 --> 01:54:24,560
could figure out who that could be you

2585
01:54:28,229 --> 01:54:26,159
can let me know

2586
01:54:30,149 --> 01:54:28,239
you know because as soon as you involve

2587
01:54:33,270 --> 01:54:30,159
government and even

2588
01:54:36,149 --> 01:54:33,280
um you know those uh whatever dod or

2589
01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:36,159
nasa or whoever is working on these

2590
01:54:41,270 --> 01:54:37,920
these subjects

2591
01:54:43,830 --> 01:54:41,280
right away there's going to be an agenda

2592
01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:43,840
so much focus

2593
01:54:48,870 --> 01:54:46,560
was put on the uap task force report

2594
01:54:50,950 --> 01:54:48,880
that came out june 25th last year

2595
01:54:53,669 --> 01:54:50,960
and i remember

2596
01:54:56,070 --> 01:54:53,679
um our conversations about this and i

2597
01:54:57,350 --> 01:54:56,080
really wanted your opinion

2598
01:55:03,830 --> 01:54:57,360
uh

2599
01:55:06,070 --> 01:55:03,840
and what you thought about this report

2600
01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:06,080
we we had such a tremendous build up not

2601
01:55:09,350 --> 01:55:07,599
only inside of the community but the

2602
01:55:11,430 --> 01:55:09,360
media uh

2603
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:11,440
built this up too as well

2604
01:55:16,790 --> 01:55:13,840
when you finally got the report you're

2605
01:55:19,669 --> 01:55:16,800
in the middle of making this movie

2606
01:55:23,189 --> 01:55:19,679
at that time uh what did you think of

2607
01:55:25,589 --> 01:55:23,199
the report and it did it help support

2608
01:55:28,070 --> 01:55:25,599
what you were doing with the movie or

2609
01:55:30,390 --> 01:55:28,080
did you feel a little disappointed

2610
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:30,400
very disappointed because i mean

2611
01:55:34,149 --> 01:55:32,560
honestly uh you know there were very

2612
01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:34,159
credible cases

2613
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:38,080
that were studied and for them to to say

2614
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:40,239
uh hey we don't have enough data we

2615
01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:41,679
don't know anything it's not this it's

2616
01:55:44,709 --> 01:55:43,360
not that just give us money and we'll

2617
01:55:47,350 --> 01:55:44,719
tell you more

2618
01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:47,360
for me it's just not good enough i'm

2619
01:55:55,030 --> 01:55:50,960
sorry and so so what that did

2620
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:55,040
was uh to encourage me even more

2621
01:55:57,990 --> 01:55:56,080
to say

2622
01:56:00,070 --> 01:55:58,000
that's the best the government can you

2623
01:56:01,589 --> 01:56:00,080
know has to say about this well we're

2624
01:56:04,310 --> 01:56:01,599
going to go out and

2625
01:56:05,830 --> 01:56:04,320
do everything we can

2626
01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:05,840
to bring

2627
01:56:11,830 --> 01:56:09,199
data real scientific data to the public

2628
01:56:14,629 --> 01:56:11,840
because obviously they're not capable of

2629
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:14,639
or they won't do it they won't tell us

2630
01:56:17,990 --> 01:56:16,639
so that's what it did to me just gave me

2631
01:56:19,990 --> 01:56:18,000
even more

2632
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:20,000
encouragement and confidence that we

2633
01:56:22,910 --> 01:56:21,599
were on the right track

2634
01:56:24,550 --> 01:56:22,920
now what about

2635
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:24,560
2022

2636
01:56:29,510 --> 01:56:25,760
here we are

2637
01:56:32,629 --> 01:56:29,520
today's 420 happy pot day uh caroline uh

2638
01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:32,639
which i think is by the way 420 is

2639
01:56:38,390 --> 01:56:35,679
generating a lot of the chat tonight a

2640
01:56:40,830 --> 01:56:38,400
lot of physics in there i i see that and

2641
01:56:44,470 --> 01:56:40,840
a lot of pizza and food

2642
01:56:47,910 --> 01:56:44,480
talk there's a lot of 420 going on um is

2643
01:56:50,149 --> 01:56:47,920
what about uh here we are uh april 20th

2644
01:56:51,350 --> 01:56:50,159
uh we're getting out of the first

2645
01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:51,360
quarter

2646
01:56:54,149 --> 01:56:52,560
and

2647
01:56:55,589 --> 01:56:54,159
there are certain things that are

2648
01:56:57,189 --> 01:56:55,599
supposed to happen this year with not

2649
01:56:58,550 --> 01:56:57,199
only with the task force we got two

2650
01:56:59,910 --> 01:56:58,560
reports that are going to be coming out

2651
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:59,920
that are public

2652
01:57:04,470 --> 01:57:02,000
we've got a classified version of that

2653
01:57:06,390 --> 01:57:04,480
report coming out and we have the senate

2654
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:06,400
intelligence committee

2655
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:09,440
with oversight on this report to make

2656
01:57:14,310 --> 01:57:11,760
sure that the data is collected

2657
01:57:16,470 --> 01:57:14,320
what do you think that is uh

2658
01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:16,480
is going to be in the report is it going

2659
01:57:20,709 --> 01:57:18,960
to be an another version of what we had

2660
01:57:24,070 --> 01:57:20,719
last year in june

2661
01:57:26,709 --> 01:57:24,080
or do you expect more

2662
01:57:29,430 --> 01:57:26,719
i think it's um

2663
01:57:32,149 --> 01:57:29,440
people are going to see

2664
01:57:34,550 --> 01:57:32,159
i think i think they're going to see

2665
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:34,560
what else is out there you know we also

2666
01:57:38,870 --> 01:57:36,480
have i mean i don't want to speak for

2667
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:38,880
other organizations but you know we're

2668
01:57:43,030 --> 01:57:40,800
going to continue with this data

2669
01:57:45,189 --> 01:57:43,040
collection and analysis i mean we're

2670
01:57:48,390 --> 01:57:45,199
already ahead of the game we're the

2671
01:57:50,070 --> 01:57:48,400
first ones to make it public not i

2672
01:57:52,870 --> 01:57:50,080
didn't say to do it but to make it

2673
01:57:53,750 --> 01:57:52,880
public so we're going to keep at it and

2674
01:57:56,310 --> 01:57:53,760
so

2675
01:57:58,870 --> 01:57:56,320
i think that that whatever report is

2676
01:57:59,830 --> 01:57:58,880
coming out is going to depend on how

2677
01:58:02,629 --> 01:57:59,840
much

2678
01:58:04,709 --> 01:58:02,639
ahead of the game we are because if we

2679
01:58:08,870 --> 01:58:04,719
are putting out data

2680
01:58:11,750 --> 01:58:08,880
that is uh validating um the fact that

2681
01:58:14,470 --> 01:58:11,760
this is a real phenomenon this is these

2682
01:58:16,550 --> 01:58:14,480
are ufos that do this and act like this

2683
01:58:19,430 --> 01:58:16,560
and behave like this or whatever

2684
01:58:21,189 --> 01:58:19,440
then they're gonna have their report is

2685
01:58:23,430 --> 01:58:21,199
gonna have to

2686
01:58:25,510 --> 01:58:23,440
um you know be

2687
01:58:28,229 --> 01:58:25,520
say something similar or better does

2688
01:58:30,070 --> 01:58:28,239
that make sense you can't you can't have

2689
01:58:32,470 --> 01:58:30,080
leading scientists these are the

2690
01:58:35,189 --> 01:58:32,480
scientists that the government uses you

2691
01:58:37,350 --> 01:58:35,199
know so so these are top-notch

2692
01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:37,360
scientists that are analyzing the data

2693
01:58:41,830 --> 01:58:39,520
so they can't go back and say

2694
01:58:43,109 --> 01:58:41,840
no no no it's some guy you know that's

2695
01:58:45,830 --> 01:58:43,119
uh

2696
01:58:49,589 --> 01:58:45,840
crazy in his garage imagining things

2697
01:58:51,750 --> 01:58:49,599
and so i think what we're doing is

2698
01:58:53,589 --> 01:58:51,760
to be honest i don't know if i'm totally

2699
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:53,599
imagining this but i think it's going to

2700
01:58:58,950 --> 01:58:55,920
affect the reports that are coming up

2701
01:59:01,189 --> 01:58:58,960
yeah there's uh and we'll pick up uh

2702
01:59:03,669 --> 01:59:01,199
on this when we come back but the one

2703
01:59:06,070 --> 01:59:03,679
missing element with this

2704
01:59:08,229 --> 01:59:06,080
that's why i'm excited about your work

2705
01:59:10,870 --> 01:59:08,239
and and the efforts that you're

2706
01:59:14,070 --> 01:59:10,880
spearheading uh with those around you

2707
01:59:16,629 --> 01:59:14,080
but avi loeb and and harvard and other

2708
01:59:19,109 --> 01:59:16,639
scientists out there that are coming in

2709
01:59:22,470 --> 01:59:19,119
from the civilian sector

2710
01:59:24,709 --> 01:59:22,480
because that is what has been missing

2711
01:59:27,510 --> 01:59:24,719
with all of the chatter that is going

2712
01:59:29,589 --> 01:59:27,520
down in inside of the pentagon and on

2713
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:29,599
capitol hill what's missing

2714
01:59:33,669 --> 01:59:30,560
us

2715
01:59:36,790 --> 01:59:35,589
the civilian

2716
01:59:38,390 --> 01:59:36,800
element

2717
01:59:40,070 --> 01:59:38,400
to all of this let's take our break

2718
01:59:42,229 --> 01:59:40,080
right here this is fade to black i'm

2719
01:59:44,229 --> 01:59:42,239
your host jimmy church tonight caroline

2720
01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:44,239
corey is with us we've been talking

2721
01:59:48,790 --> 01:59:46,639
about her new film it is called a tear

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in the sky we've got the links up in

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lifetime space is limited so make your

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reservations now please visit forbidden

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knowledge.com for information and

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complete itinerary that's forbidden

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this is jimmy churchill fade to black

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and this year june 18 2022

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the disclosure fest foundation presents

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the mass meditation initiative it's

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saturday june 18th from 10 a.m to 10 p.m

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one day only at the los angeles state

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historic park in downtown los angeles

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california right next to chinatown i'm

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hosting the event again this year with

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music performances by trevor hall the

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desert dwellers poor on key and many

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many more on four separate stages

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there's 16 stages in total over 30 acres

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in downtown los angeles with vendors and

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tents and presentations and workshops

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with billy carson adam apollo lori

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spania laura eisenhower brattles and

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david palmer and many many more it's all

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simple to do just go to

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disclosurefest.org for all of your

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tickets information and the full

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02:03:56,170 --> 02:03:53,840
schedule of the day's events again

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disclosurefest.org

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[Music]

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you want to know a secret

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i love ponies i really love ponies i'm

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serious

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i couldn't stay sane without ponies to

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brush

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why fade to black

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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all right welcome back i was i was

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this is fade to blacker guessing like

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caroline cory i was hanging out on

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social media during the break and it's

2829
02:05:06,790 --> 02:05:04,480
so funny i i can't get the last the last

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02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:06,800
text in i can't get the last post in and

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02:05:11,750 --> 02:05:08,719
i'm hearing the i'm hearing the music

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wind down and then i do a typo and then

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oh man

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excuse me uh a tear in the sky

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uh you can uh pre-order it uh we've got

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02:05:30,390 --> 02:05:27,199
it up in uh social media but you can

2837
02:05:33,669 --> 02:05:30,400
also visit a terror in the sky

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02:05:36,629 --> 02:05:33,679
dot com uh before the break caroline

2839
02:05:39,669 --> 02:05:36,639
i was bringing up the civilian element

2840
02:05:42,390 --> 02:05:39,679
to all of this because i feel that

2841
02:05:43,830 --> 02:05:42,400
um gillibrand and rubio and the rest of

2842
02:05:45,030 --> 02:05:43,840
the senate intelligence committee

2843
02:05:50,709 --> 02:05:45,040
they're getting

2844
02:05:53,270 --> 02:05:50,719
and i'm not so sure they're even hearing

2845
02:05:56,310 --> 02:05:53,280
what they want to hear like they are

2846
02:05:58,149 --> 02:05:56,320
getting a filtered version of things

2847
02:05:59,750 --> 02:05:58,159
coming at them they can ask all the

2848
02:06:01,990 --> 02:05:59,760
questions that they want but they're not

2849
02:06:04,550 --> 02:06:02,000
going to get straight answers and i

2850
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:04,560
don't know this is fact but i i know

2851
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that is what is going on

2852
02:06:12,310 --> 02:06:09,119
if they brought in

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02:06:13,990 --> 02:06:12,320
civilian researchers bring in mufon

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in the very least

2855
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and and and get people up there like

2856
02:06:24,790 --> 02:06:20,719
yourself uh bring me in i'll i'll talk

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and uh and and get that side of it do

2858
02:06:30,390 --> 02:06:25,520
you

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02:06:32,629 --> 02:06:30,400
that we will actually have hearings

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02:06:34,709 --> 02:06:32,639
on capitol hill

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hearing from others outside of the

2862
02:06:39,030 --> 02:06:36,880
department of defense

2863
02:06:39,990 --> 02:06:39,040
one of these days it's gonna have to

2864
02:06:41,510 --> 02:06:40,000
happen

2865
02:06:43,669 --> 02:06:41,520
i think we're getting there though i

2866
02:06:46,310 --> 02:06:43,679
mean it's very very exciting what's been

2867
02:06:50,229 --> 02:06:46,320
happening just in the span of what two

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02:06:53,270 --> 02:06:50,239
years we've had the the uap report then

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02:06:55,589 --> 02:06:53,280
we had this other report like with what

2870
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not even within a year right the this

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02:07:00,390 --> 02:06:58,639
thousand paid 1500 page report we have

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two more coming up so i mean it's like

2873
02:07:05,910 --> 02:07:02,960
it's picking up momentum it's bound to

2874
02:07:08,950 --> 02:07:05,920
happen i think that's where we have the

2875
02:07:11,270 --> 02:07:08,960
civilians like we have to just like keep

2876
02:07:13,589 --> 02:07:11,280
going and keep putting the stuff out

2877
02:07:15,990 --> 02:07:13,599
there and all the scientists need to be

2878
02:07:17,830 --> 02:07:16,000
talking about it you know so

2879
02:07:21,109 --> 02:07:17,840
that's what needs to happen

2880
02:07:22,310 --> 02:07:21,119
well i i i wonder

2881
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if

2882
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they would take

2883
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like my phone calls i'm talking about

2884
02:07:31,750 --> 02:07:29,119
the senate or congress would they take

2885
02:07:33,910 --> 02:07:31,760
your phone calls in years past

2886
02:07:37,430 --> 02:07:33,920
you're the crazy ufo lady that talks

2887
02:07:41,589 --> 02:07:37,440
about late night talk radio right and

2888
02:07:44,470 --> 02:07:41,599
if you know what i mean and but today is

2889
02:07:46,870 --> 02:07:44,480
the environment changed enough

2890
02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:46,880
that they would take our phone calls and

2891
02:07:51,750 --> 02:07:48,800
it would be possible

2892
02:07:54,470 --> 02:07:51,760
to sit down with some staffers and and

2893
02:07:55,430 --> 02:07:54,480
and not necessarily in public

2894
02:07:57,990 --> 02:07:55,440
but they

2895
02:08:00,310 --> 02:07:58,000
they would listen to what we have to say

2896
02:08:01,750 --> 02:08:00,320
yeah i mean this has happened already in

2897
02:08:03,189 --> 02:08:01,760
bits and pieces here and there but i

2898
02:08:06,069 --> 02:08:03,199
think within

2899
02:08:08,310 --> 02:08:06,079
a year or so i bet we're going to start

2900
02:08:10,629 --> 02:08:08,320
seeing something like this because it's

2901
02:08:14,229 --> 02:08:10,639
just really picking up momentum it's

2902
02:08:16,550 --> 02:08:14,239
really and now also with other uh like i

2903
02:08:17,350 --> 02:08:16,560
said organizations doing their piece as

2904
02:08:19,669 --> 02:08:17,360
well

2905
02:08:22,709 --> 02:08:19,679
uh i think we're definitely getting

2906
02:08:24,470 --> 02:08:22,719
there and it's exciting but at the same

2907
02:08:26,790 --> 02:08:24,480
time like we talk about this and at the

2908
02:08:29,950 --> 02:08:26,800
same time and that's how i feel at the

2909
02:08:32,310 --> 02:08:29,960
same time we shouldn't wait for this

2910
02:08:34,790 --> 02:08:32,320
disclosure thing from the government

2911
02:08:38,310 --> 02:08:34,800
like i think we should just keep going

2912
02:08:40,310 --> 02:08:38,320
and have them catch up with us you know

2913
02:08:43,109 --> 02:08:40,320
well here's the question

2914
02:08:44,470 --> 02:08:43,119
okay so you get the invite right you get

2915
02:08:47,189 --> 02:08:44,480
the invite

2916
02:08:48,950 --> 02:08:47,199
and caroline's going to washington dc

2917
02:08:51,990 --> 02:08:48,960
and you sit down

2918
02:08:54,870 --> 02:08:52,000
um and you have

2919
02:08:56,310 --> 02:08:54,880
the opportunity to push something across

2920
02:09:00,149 --> 02:08:56,320
the table

2921
02:09:03,430 --> 02:09:00,159
you got one crack at it what is the one

2922
02:09:06,470 --> 02:09:03,440
thing that you want them to know or see

2923
02:09:10,629 --> 02:09:06,480
this movie hello

2924
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:10,639
no seriously this is the first movie

2925
02:09:14,950 --> 02:09:13,280
this is the first movie

2926
02:09:18,950 --> 02:09:14,960
that is showing

2927
02:09:20,629 --> 02:09:18,960
how you conduct a ufo investigation

2928
02:09:23,189 --> 02:09:20,639
scientifically

2929
02:09:24,310 --> 02:09:23,199
and how you go at it and how you collect

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02:09:27,830 --> 02:09:24,320
data

2931
02:09:31,910 --> 02:09:27,840
and at the end of the film you have

2932
02:09:34,629 --> 02:09:31,920
evidence that this is a real phenomenon

2933
02:09:37,669 --> 02:09:34,639
there are anomalous objects flying

2934
02:09:39,350 --> 02:09:37,679
around we know some of their properties

2935
02:09:41,750 --> 02:09:39,360
we we're gonna know more of their

2936
02:09:43,990 --> 02:09:41,760
properties and it's it's an important

2937
02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:44,000
discussion to have that like at the end

2938
02:09:49,510 --> 02:09:46,800
of the you saw the movie so

2939
02:09:52,229 --> 02:09:49,520
i mean if you were a politician

2940
02:09:54,870 --> 02:09:52,239
you you'd be a politician for a second i

2941
02:09:57,350 --> 02:09:54,880
will okay

2942
02:09:59,430 --> 02:09:57,360
so if so you saw the movie what would

2943
02:10:02,310 --> 02:09:59,440
you say what would you think i would

2944
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:02,320
look right at you and go okay

2945
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:04,719
what is this tear in the sky i don't

2946
02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:06,880
know what i'm looking at

2947
02:10:13,990 --> 02:10:11,280
i i i saw it but i don't understand it

2948
02:10:17,270 --> 02:10:14,000
what happened and then my next question

2949
02:10:20,149 --> 02:10:17,280
to you would be did you send this

2950
02:10:23,189 --> 02:10:20,159
to the navy did you send this

2951
02:10:25,990 --> 02:10:23,199
uat task force and what did they have to

2952
02:10:28,950 --> 02:10:26,000
say and have they been seeing the exact

2953
02:10:31,430 --> 02:10:28,960
same thing that's what i would ask you

2954
02:10:33,030 --> 02:10:31,440
yeah so i think this is so the data is

2955
02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:33,040
going to be put out you know after the

2956
02:10:37,109 --> 02:10:35,520
movies out the rest of the data like i

2957
02:10:38,470 --> 02:10:37,119
said because the movie has a certain

2958
02:10:41,030 --> 02:10:38,480
number i mean it's an hour and a half

2959
02:10:43,430 --> 02:10:41,040
movie we can't you know so plus it's a

2960
02:10:46,149 --> 02:10:43,440
story it's the story of how we did it

2961
02:10:48,149 --> 02:10:46,159
you know so but the actual data is going

2962
02:10:49,669 --> 02:10:48,159
to be shared publicly like i said the

2963
02:10:52,390 --> 02:10:49,679
scientists are putting out this paper

2964
02:10:55,030 --> 02:10:52,400
they're doing presentations so it is

2965
02:10:57,430 --> 02:10:55,040
going to be i don't know if they're

2966
02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:57,440
specifically want to send it to the navy

2967
02:11:01,830 --> 02:10:59,520
i don't know what they want to do with

2968
02:11:03,990 --> 02:11:01,840
it but it's definitely going to be out

2969
02:11:06,310 --> 02:11:04,000
there and so i think if the navy is

2970
02:11:07,830 --> 02:11:06,320
really serious about investigating the

2971
02:11:09,030 --> 02:11:07,840
subject they're going to want to see it

2972
02:11:10,870 --> 02:11:09,040
they're going to want to talk to the

2973
02:11:13,030 --> 02:11:10,880
scientists for sure

2974
02:11:15,270 --> 02:11:13,040
have you sent this to

2975
02:11:18,629 --> 02:11:15,280
and now i'm still the politician i'm

2976
02:11:22,709 --> 02:11:20,790
have you sent this to chris mellon and

2977
02:11:23,750 --> 02:11:22,719
lou elizondo and what did they think of

2978
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:23,760
the film

2979
02:11:32,149 --> 02:11:29,760
actually uh chris um melon uh i think he

2980
02:11:34,390 --> 02:11:32,159
uh kind of didn't want to comment

2981
02:11:36,709 --> 02:11:34,400
uh because uh i don't know i guess he

2982
02:11:39,350 --> 02:11:36,719
didn't want to comment and lu

2983
02:11:40,629 --> 02:11:39,360
yeah i mean it's it's uh i think they

2984
02:11:42,950 --> 02:11:40,639
they will

2985
02:11:45,510 --> 02:11:42,960
yeah i don't know

2986
02:11:47,109 --> 02:11:45,520
they will current on their own

2987
02:11:48,629 --> 02:11:47,119
if they want to

2988
02:11:50,390 --> 02:11:48,639
that's something after you give in the

2989
02:11:52,470 --> 02:11:50,400
senate chambers so

2990
02:11:54,069 --> 02:11:52,480
yeah i'm sorry i forgot your rubio yeah

2991
02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:54,079
that's right was

2992
02:11:59,669 --> 02:11:57,040
did you send it to them and the answer

2993
02:12:00,550 --> 02:11:59,679
would be yes

2994
02:12:03,430 --> 02:12:00,560
well

2995
02:12:06,390 --> 02:12:03,440
i didn't but yeah

2996
02:12:08,149 --> 02:12:06,400
do you want me to send it to him

2997
02:12:10,390 --> 02:12:08,159
i i don't think it's necessary they're

2998
02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:10,400
going to see it they're going to say

2999
02:12:14,790 --> 02:12:11,920
they won't see it

3000
02:12:16,390 --> 02:12:14,800
i'm i'm very clear but the question is

3001
02:12:17,910 --> 02:12:16,400
what are they going to do with it that's

3002
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:17,920
not what

3003
02:12:22,310 --> 02:12:20,960
you know they need to take act three

3004
02:12:24,550 --> 02:12:22,320
right

3005
02:12:27,510 --> 02:12:24,560
yeah three of the film

3006
02:12:30,149 --> 02:12:27,520
and and and get that to uh the senate

3007
02:12:31,669 --> 02:12:30,159
intelligence committee and uh the uap

3008
02:12:34,870 --> 02:12:31,679
task force like

3009
02:12:36,310 --> 02:12:34,880
like stat like now yeah well so i think

3010
02:12:38,790 --> 02:12:36,320
that's what you know i'm going to let

3011
02:12:40,709 --> 02:12:38,800
the group auipx you know they they're

3012
02:12:43,510 --> 02:12:40,719
going to put out this information they

3013
02:12:46,069 --> 02:12:43,520
have plans i don't know but uh but this

3014
02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:46,079
information is going to be public so if

3015
02:12:51,750 --> 02:12:48,480
i were a politician i would be

3016
02:12:55,750 --> 02:12:51,760
having some meetings with those guys now

3017
02:12:58,950 --> 02:12:57,910
has he seen the film

3018
02:13:00,470 --> 02:12:58,960
uh

3019
02:13:08,950 --> 02:13:00,480
i'm sure

3020
02:13:10,390 --> 02:13:08,960
uh yeah he he's uh he has his own plans

3021
02:13:12,290 --> 02:13:10,400
i'm sure

3022
02:13:13,510 --> 02:13:12,300
i love watching you do the dance

3023
02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:13,520
[Music]

3024
02:13:20,950 --> 02:13:17,520
see this is the thing this is exactly

3025
02:13:23,750 --> 02:13:20,960
what they need to see i know this is the

3026
02:13:26,470 --> 02:13:23,760
data collection exactly

3027
02:13:28,390 --> 02:13:26,480
how avi has framed it

3028
02:13:30,310 --> 02:13:28,400
and how he wants to do this he wants to

3029
02:13:33,350 --> 02:13:30,320
do this with automated systems he wants

3030
02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:33,360
to do this full spectrum with flear

3031
02:13:38,709 --> 02:13:35,599
he wants to capture telemetry

3032
02:13:41,990 --> 02:13:38,719
um atmospheric data radiation points

3033
02:13:44,550 --> 02:13:42,000
these are all the things that he

3034
02:13:47,510 --> 02:13:44,560
is interested in for the galileo project

3035
02:13:49,510 --> 02:13:47,520
that is actively being funded right now

3036
02:13:51,030 --> 02:13:49,520
exactly why don't we invite him to the

3037
02:13:52,550 --> 02:13:51,040
show

3038
02:13:54,470 --> 02:13:52,560
and then we'll have a conversation you

3039
02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:54,480
me and him

3040
02:14:01,030 --> 02:13:56,239
let me i can bring him in right now you

3041
02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:02,629
and um

3042
02:14:06,069 --> 02:14:03,760
i actually

3043
02:14:07,109 --> 02:14:06,079
want to talk about that just a little

3044
02:14:09,669 --> 02:14:07,119
bit

3045
02:14:12,709 --> 02:14:09,679
it's not i i i see this as a

3046
02:14:15,750 --> 02:14:12,719
multi-pronged approach

3047
02:14:19,109 --> 02:14:15,760
it's science it's the civilian community

3048
02:14:22,069 --> 02:14:19,119
um it's astronomers uh it's exoplanets

3049
02:14:25,030 --> 02:14:22,079
it's the media it's ancient aliens it's

3050
02:14:27,589 --> 02:14:25,040
the department of defense it is uh the

3051
02:14:30,790 --> 02:14:27,599
senate intelligence committee

3052
02:14:33,430 --> 02:14:30,800
so it shows like this right it is

3053
02:14:36,870 --> 02:14:33,440
a multi-pronged approach

3054
02:14:37,669 --> 02:14:36,880
um avi has taken

3055
02:14:50,390 --> 02:14:37,679
a

3056
02:14:53,270 --> 02:14:50,400
community

3057
02:14:55,830 --> 02:14:53,280
right how important how important is

3058
02:14:59,430 --> 02:14:55,840
that for your efforts to have

3059
02:15:00,709 --> 02:14:59,440
avi loeb uh you know walking next to you

3060
02:15:02,950 --> 02:15:00,719
yeah i mean

3061
02:15:04,870 --> 02:15:02,960
he's not really walking next to me like

3062
02:15:07,350 --> 02:15:04,880
doing exactly what we're doing but kind

3063
02:15:09,750 --> 02:15:07,360
of yeah sort of and he actually he

3064
02:15:11,910 --> 02:15:09,760
surrounded himself with with a lot of

3065
02:15:13,270 --> 02:15:11,920
scientists mainstream scientists you

3066
02:15:16,310 --> 02:15:13,280
know as well

3067
02:15:18,870 --> 02:15:16,320
so i think his approach is also very

3068
02:15:20,470 --> 02:15:18,880
scientific um

3069
02:15:23,030 --> 02:15:20,480
and on a

3070
02:15:25,830 --> 02:15:23,040
grand scale the way he's going at it is

3071
02:15:29,350 --> 02:15:25,840
slightly different than what we did

3072
02:15:31,669 --> 02:15:29,360
uh but um it's gonna be amazing

3073
02:15:34,310 --> 02:15:31,679
incredible and the more

3074
02:15:37,750 --> 02:15:34,320
people like that the more projects like

3075
02:15:40,790 --> 02:15:37,760
that that we have the more again the

3076
02:15:43,830 --> 02:15:40,800
more you know we civilians we're pushing

3077
02:15:44,790 --> 02:15:43,840
the envelopes we are ahead of the game

3078
02:15:47,750 --> 02:15:44,800
so

3079
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:47,760
it it just adds to the validation of

3080
02:15:52,550 --> 02:15:50,400
what we've done like avi loeb you know

3081
02:15:53,990 --> 02:15:52,560
of harvard is doing what we're doing you

3082
02:15:56,870 --> 02:15:54,000
know so

3083
02:15:58,790 --> 02:15:56,880
it's it's amazing i think we should do

3084
02:16:00,390 --> 02:15:58,800
even more things together that's what i

3085
02:16:05,350 --> 02:16:00,400
was saying in the beginning of the show

3086
02:16:07,109 --> 02:16:05,360
yeah exactly and i think that um

3087
02:16:08,470 --> 02:16:07,119
and this goes right back to what you did

3088
02:16:10,229 --> 02:16:08,480
in this film

3089
02:16:11,750 --> 02:16:10,239
you guys were there

3090
02:16:14,629 --> 02:16:11,760
before

3091
02:16:17,270 --> 02:16:14,639
right you are there prepared

3092
02:16:19,990 --> 02:16:17,280
to capture it right

3093
02:16:22,709 --> 02:16:20,000
with omuamua that was the big

3094
02:16:23,910 --> 02:16:22,719
disappointment not only for avi but for

3095
02:16:25,990 --> 02:16:23,920
the rest of the

3096
02:16:28,229 --> 02:16:26,000
astrophysicists and astronomers out

3097
02:16:31,589 --> 02:16:28,239
there they missed it

3098
02:16:34,150 --> 02:16:31,599
right they caught it mid-flight and then

3099
02:16:35,589 --> 02:16:34,160
they just saw the taillights right as

3100
02:16:38,389 --> 02:16:35,599
it's leaving

3101
02:16:40,230 --> 02:16:38,399
they missed it that's what avi doesn't

3102
02:16:42,389 --> 02:16:40,240
want to do you've got to get it in the

3103
02:16:43,910 --> 02:16:42,399
beginning you've got to get the imaging

3104
02:16:46,549 --> 02:16:43,920
you've got to do everything else you got

3105
02:16:50,070 --> 02:16:46,559
to point a radio telescopes at it what

3106
02:16:51,830 --> 02:16:50,080
if it's emitting radio signals right

3107
02:16:54,629 --> 02:16:51,840
what if there's communication coming

3108
02:16:55,589 --> 02:16:54,639
they missed that opportunity completely

3109
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:55,599
you

3110
02:17:01,190 --> 02:16:58,559
are doing it in front of the curve

3111
02:17:02,870 --> 02:17:01,200
you're waiting for it to happen and i

3112
02:17:05,190 --> 02:17:02,880
think that that's that's the lesson that

3113
02:17:06,709 --> 02:17:05,200
avi learned with omoumou we had the

3114
02:17:08,389 --> 02:17:06,719
object there

3115
02:17:11,190 --> 02:17:08,399
but we caught it late

3116
02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:11,200
you're there before it happens caroline

3117
02:17:16,150 --> 02:17:13,439
exactly and so i'm hoping that next time

3118
02:17:18,950 --> 02:17:16,160
he'll be there before it happens and so

3119
02:17:20,549 --> 02:17:18,960
and during when it happens so yeah

3120
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:20,559
that's that's kind of what i was saying

3121
02:17:25,349 --> 02:17:22,559
like kind of we can feed off of each

3122
02:17:26,230 --> 02:17:25,359
other you know whatever we've done they

3123
02:17:30,950 --> 02:17:26,240
can

3124
02:17:33,429 --> 02:17:30,960
to be doing is going to help us out so

3125
02:17:36,230 --> 02:17:33,439
yeah they have technology i'm sure

3126
02:17:38,870 --> 02:17:36,240
that's going to be very advanced and so

3127
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:38,880
so that's that's that's that's

3128
02:17:43,270 --> 02:17:40,399
i mean that that's what's happening

3129
02:17:46,150 --> 02:17:43,280
right now is incredible i think we're

3130
02:17:48,950 --> 02:17:46,160
really really really changing history

3131
02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:48,960
well okay now i'm going to ask you to

3132
02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:51,439
speculate just a little bit

3133
02:17:56,870 --> 02:17:52,479
but

3134
02:18:00,709 --> 02:17:56,880
with all the talk of of a wormholes or

3135
02:18:03,589 --> 02:18:00,719
stargates uh vortexes opening

3136
02:18:05,910 --> 02:18:03,599
um it appears that for the first time

3137
02:18:09,030 --> 02:18:05,920
you have actually captured this

3138
02:18:10,629 --> 02:18:09,040
and if we go back to that moment

3139
02:18:14,389 --> 02:18:10,639
um

3140
02:18:16,389 --> 02:18:14,399
what was there first was it just and i'm

3141
02:18:19,349 --> 02:18:16,399
talking about the radiation readings was

3142
02:18:21,270 --> 02:18:19,359
that a blank sky or a blank canvas

3143
02:18:23,509 --> 02:18:21,280
and then

3144
02:18:24,709 --> 02:18:23,519
the radiation started at that specific

3145
02:18:27,830 --> 02:18:24,719
point

3146
02:18:29,429 --> 02:18:27,840
no it looked like because we had um

3147
02:18:32,070 --> 02:18:29,439
images from

3148
02:18:32,950 --> 02:18:32,080
like the same spot for days so it's not

3149
02:18:36,230 --> 02:18:32,960
like

3150
02:18:37,429 --> 02:18:36,240
so we had a control if you if you will

3151
02:18:39,669 --> 02:18:37,439
and so

3152
02:18:41,270 --> 02:18:39,679
just before it was it looked like a

3153
02:18:44,549 --> 02:18:41,280
cluster people will see that in the

3154
02:18:46,870 --> 02:18:44,559
movie it looked like like a darkening in

3155
02:18:48,950 --> 02:18:46,880
one particular spot

3156
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:48,960
but and then all of a sudden like it

3157
02:18:52,709 --> 02:18:50,880
opens and then there's

3158
02:18:54,070 --> 02:18:52,719
physical objects there and then it

3159
02:18:57,190 --> 02:18:54,080
closes

3160
02:18:59,830 --> 02:18:57,200
and then it goes away so it's like so so

3161
02:19:00,790 --> 02:18:59,840
we have the before when there's nothing

3162
02:19:03,429 --> 02:19:00,800
at all

3163
02:19:06,070 --> 02:19:03,439
then at one point there is

3164
02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:06,080
a spot that's dark and then this whole

3165
02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:07,359
thing happens

3166
02:19:12,309 --> 02:19:10,080
and then it goes away

3167
02:19:15,429 --> 02:19:12,319
and but

3168
02:19:19,110 --> 02:19:15,439
what what i'm wondering is

3169
02:19:22,150 --> 02:19:19,120
when we talk about wormholes or

3170
02:19:24,790 --> 02:19:22,160
even einstein's uh

3171
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:24,800
theories on this the possibility of this

3172
02:19:28,389 --> 02:19:26,559
the the bridge

3173
02:19:31,030 --> 02:19:28,399
um forming

3174
02:19:33,030 --> 02:19:31,040
that would be a high concentration of

3175
02:19:36,709 --> 02:19:33,040
energy no matter what

3176
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:36,719
and and you measured it uh

3177
02:19:42,070 --> 02:19:39,599
there you got the spike in the radiation

3178
02:19:44,150 --> 02:19:42,080
is this something that would be

3179
02:19:46,150 --> 02:19:44,160
repeatable and something that other

3180
02:19:49,510 --> 02:19:46,160
scientists can look for

3181
02:19:52,230 --> 02:19:49,520
in the future in that oh that's that's a

3182
02:19:54,950 --> 02:19:52,240
wormhole forming and here's the data

3183
02:19:57,910 --> 02:19:54,960
that supports this and then you can look

3184
02:20:01,190 --> 02:19:57,920
at that area and maybe expect something

3185
02:20:04,150 --> 02:20:01,200
that's the idea that's why this is so

3186
02:20:06,710 --> 02:20:04,160
important this film is so so important

3187
02:20:09,030 --> 02:20:06,720
we're just scratching the surface here

3188
02:20:11,270 --> 02:20:09,040
you know we're not claiming it's a it's

3189
02:20:12,790 --> 02:20:11,280
a wormhole or this or that we're saying

3190
02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:12,800
what is that

3191
02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:15,439
it's something that nobody can explain

3192
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:18,640
scientifically and so and so that's the

3193
02:20:24,070 --> 02:20:21,520
idea let's let's we started a very

3194
02:20:26,870 --> 02:20:24,080
important conversation for the purpose

3195
02:20:28,469 --> 02:20:26,880
of going back and make it repeatable

3196
02:20:30,710 --> 02:20:28,479
whether it's in this location or

3197
02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:30,720
somewhere else's location so whatever we

3198
02:20:35,030 --> 02:20:32,880
learned from this phenomenon that it

3199
02:20:36,150 --> 02:20:35,040
moves this way that it's you know it

3200
02:20:37,590 --> 02:20:36,160
could be

3201
02:20:40,309 --> 02:20:37,600
you know what i mean like whatever we

3202
02:20:41,990 --> 02:20:40,319
learn from it can that be duplicated

3203
02:20:43,990 --> 02:20:42,000
could that be repeated could that be

3204
02:20:46,309 --> 02:20:44,000
photographed what other instruments

3205
02:20:48,389 --> 02:20:46,319
should we be bringing next time

3206
02:20:51,590 --> 02:20:48,399
and then knowing that there could be

3207
02:20:54,230 --> 02:20:51,600
interference and the power could go off

3208
02:20:56,070 --> 02:20:54,240
for no reason whatsoever you know what

3209
02:20:58,630 --> 02:20:56,080
else could we be doing so that's the

3210
02:20:59,990 --> 02:20:58,640
idea there's definitely follow-up here

3211
02:21:02,710 --> 02:21:00,000
by the way

3212
02:21:04,469 --> 02:21:02,720
do you think again this is speculation

3213
02:21:06,630 --> 02:21:04,479
but you're the one that

3214
02:21:07,750 --> 02:21:06,640
shot the film and and has reviewed the

3215
02:21:10,790 --> 02:21:07,760
data

3216
02:21:12,550 --> 02:21:10,800
um do you think that these visitors and

3217
02:21:15,750 --> 02:21:12,560
that's what i think happened

3218
02:21:17,510 --> 02:21:15,760
were the same visitors with the nimitz

3219
02:21:19,990 --> 02:21:17,520
in that they are interested in this

3220
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:20,000
planet this is the same extraterrestrial

3221
02:21:23,670 --> 02:21:21,359
civilization

3222
02:21:25,510 --> 02:21:23,680
and they're they're coming back and and

3223
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:25,520
hanging out with us or

3224
02:21:30,309 --> 02:21:28,080
could it be another planet right where

3225
02:21:32,389 --> 02:21:30,319
we've got 40 billion earth-like planets

3226
02:21:35,110 --> 02:21:32,399
in the milky way that could have life on

3227
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:35,120
it it may not even be from the same part

3228
02:21:39,110 --> 02:21:36,880
of the milky way

3229
02:21:41,750 --> 02:21:39,120
yeah so from a

3230
02:21:44,630 --> 02:21:41,760
measurable point of view the the the

3231
02:21:46,790 --> 02:21:44,640
common denominators with the the tic

3232
02:21:50,309 --> 02:21:46,800
tacs the the ones that were observed

3233
02:21:52,309 --> 02:21:50,319
before was that the the size of these

3234
02:21:54,630 --> 02:21:52,319
objects was the same

3235
02:21:56,710 --> 02:21:54,640
the objects that came out of this hole

3236
02:22:00,790 --> 02:21:56,720
were also 35

3237
02:22:03,270 --> 02:22:00,800
feet uh the same size and so so that's

3238
02:22:05,750 --> 02:22:03,280
the only common denominator

3239
02:22:08,070 --> 02:22:05,760
but in terms of who are they are they

3240
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:08,080
the same you know that's a that's a

3241
02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:11,840
speculation total speculation and i

3242
02:22:15,910 --> 02:22:13,840
believe

3243
02:22:18,070 --> 02:22:15,920
this is totally speculating right

3244
02:22:22,150 --> 02:22:18,080
because nothing we are proving or

3245
02:22:24,550 --> 02:22:22,160
anything um i feel that just because we

3246
02:22:28,150 --> 02:22:24,560
were in that particular location and

3247
02:22:29,990 --> 02:22:28,160
there was so many like common threads to

3248
02:22:30,950 --> 02:22:30,000
everything that we've captured even

3249
02:22:32,550 --> 02:22:30,960
though

3250
02:22:34,309 --> 02:22:32,560
sometimes it looked like warm or

3251
02:22:36,710 --> 02:22:34,319
sometimes it looked like a raining thing

3252
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:36,720
sometimes you know it was like all

3253
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:39,600
kind of similar patterns

3254
02:22:44,950 --> 02:22:41,760
i want to say it's a similar

3255
02:22:46,389 --> 02:22:44,960
intelligence that's in that area

3256
02:22:50,469 --> 02:22:46,399
does that mean it's the only

3257
02:22:53,590 --> 02:22:50,479
intelligence no it means that

3258
02:22:55,110 --> 02:22:53,600
whatever is triggering these events

3259
02:22:58,389 --> 02:22:55,120
is is

3260
02:23:01,510 --> 02:22:58,399
probably the same intelligence behind it

3261
02:23:02,830 --> 02:23:01,520
what i'm interested in and and i know

3262
02:23:05,830 --> 02:23:02,840
that this data

3263
02:23:07,270 --> 02:23:05,840
exists that uh

3264
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:07,280
the nimitz

3265
02:23:11,510 --> 02:23:10,000
uh and that group the battle group

3266
02:23:12,389 --> 02:23:11,520
um

3267
02:23:16,469 --> 02:23:12,399
uh

3268
02:23:19,429 --> 02:23:16,479
data that they had and what they

3269
02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:19,439
observed this is from kevin day directly

3270
02:23:25,590 --> 02:23:24,160
that this started at around 80 000 feet

3271
02:23:29,429 --> 02:23:25,600
okay now

3272
02:23:30,790 --> 02:23:29,439
what did they see at 80 000 feet

3273
02:23:33,349 --> 02:23:30,800
was there

3274
02:23:36,070 --> 02:23:33,359
some activity a tear in the sky right

3275
02:23:38,389 --> 02:23:36,080
was there something that happened there

3276
02:23:40,870 --> 02:23:38,399
and the reason why

3277
02:23:43,670 --> 02:23:40,880
that would be interesting to look at

3278
02:23:45,910 --> 02:23:43,680
if it was something that entered through

3279
02:23:48,230 --> 02:23:45,920
our atmosphere traditionally in an

3280
02:23:50,309 --> 02:23:48,240
analog sense we would have tremendous

3281
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:50,319
heat signatures we know what happens

3282
02:23:56,230 --> 02:23:51,120
when

3283
02:23:58,469 --> 02:23:56,240
capsule re-enters the atmosphere and the

3284
02:24:01,110 --> 02:23:58,479
tremendous amount of heat that is there

3285
02:24:03,270 --> 02:24:01,120
and quite honestly we could see it

3286
02:24:05,510 --> 02:24:03,280
but you know we could observe it

3287
02:24:06,550 --> 02:24:05,520
and i don't think that any of that

3288
02:24:07,590 --> 02:24:06,560
happened

3289
02:24:10,790 --> 02:24:07,600
so

3290
02:24:13,349 --> 02:24:10,800
did these tic tacs from the nimitz

3291
02:24:15,910 --> 02:24:13,359
appear at 80 000 feet

3292
02:24:17,830 --> 02:24:15,920
through the same tear in the sky that

3293
02:24:19,590 --> 02:24:17,840
you guys captured

3294
02:24:21,510 --> 02:24:19,600
you know um

3295
02:24:24,630 --> 02:24:21,520
first of all it's of course it's a great

3296
02:24:27,030 --> 02:24:24,640
question but i either i read something

3297
02:24:30,870 --> 02:24:27,040
or someone told me

3298
02:24:33,910 --> 02:24:30,880
that there was a report where

3299
02:24:36,710 --> 02:24:33,920
um so it's not an official

3300
02:24:38,710 --> 02:24:36,720
par it's not part of an official report

3301
02:24:40,710 --> 02:24:38,720
but i have to you know so now i'm just

3302
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:40,720
like talking out of memory right now so

3303
02:24:45,590 --> 02:24:42,479
i apologize but

3304
02:24:47,990 --> 02:24:45,600
i believe that there was some sort of

3305
02:24:49,670 --> 02:24:48,000
investigation around that

3306
02:24:52,309 --> 02:24:49,680
and they're trying to figure out because

3307
02:24:54,389 --> 02:24:52,319
they did see some sort of what i call a

3308
02:24:55,670 --> 02:24:54,399
magnetic anomaly or some sort of

3309
02:24:56,950 --> 02:24:55,680
something

3310
02:24:59,750 --> 02:24:56,960
that

3311
02:25:02,389 --> 02:24:59,760
happened before they saw the object i

3312
02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:02,399
have to find that that article or that

3313
02:25:06,309 --> 02:25:05,040
report that i i'm referring to and send

3314
02:25:09,190 --> 02:25:06,319
it to you but

3315
02:25:10,469 --> 02:25:09,200
someone is investigating that

3316
02:25:13,590 --> 02:25:10,479
possibility

3317
02:25:16,710 --> 02:25:13,600
that would be crazy that would be insane

3318
02:25:21,030 --> 02:25:16,720
yeah that data has to be there in other

3319
02:25:24,150 --> 02:25:21,040
words um i would i mean i would bet the

3320
02:25:26,230 --> 02:25:24,160
farm yeah that if something came in when

3321
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:26,240
i say analog you know the traditional

3322
02:25:30,550 --> 02:25:28,160
sense it's a it's an asteroid it's a

3323
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:30,560
meteor it's uh

3324
02:25:35,590 --> 02:25:33,359
it's a comet it's a soyuz spacecraft

3325
02:25:37,750 --> 02:25:35,600
it's a space shuttle it's a satellite

3326
02:25:39,349 --> 02:25:37,760
crashing to earth whatever it is it

3327
02:25:41,750 --> 02:25:39,359
lights up in the atmosphere right

3328
02:25:43,990 --> 02:25:41,760
there's a tremendous friction and heat

3329
02:25:46,630 --> 02:25:44,000
and flame and burning

3330
02:25:49,349 --> 02:25:46,640
we would have observed that

3331
02:25:50,150 --> 02:25:49,359
all over the place there would have been

3332
02:25:52,550 --> 02:25:50,160
uh

3333
02:25:54,790 --> 02:25:52,560
different observatories

3334
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:54,800
of amateur astronomers

3335
02:25:58,550 --> 02:25:57,280
uh people looking to the sky stopping

3336
02:26:01,830 --> 02:25:58,560
with their cell phones it would have

3337
02:26:03,429 --> 02:26:01,840
been observed it wasn't

3338
02:26:06,870 --> 02:26:03,439
right so

3339
02:26:09,190 --> 02:26:06,880
how did they get there and did the navy

3340
02:26:11,750 --> 02:26:09,200
know this that's the part to the puzzle

3341
02:26:13,990 --> 02:26:11,760
we don't know about well actually i want

3342
02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:14,000
to say something that

3343
02:26:19,349 --> 02:26:16,240
we don't necessarily observe it with the

3344
02:26:21,190 --> 02:26:19,359
naked eye because this opening and i've

3345
02:26:22,469 --> 02:26:21,200
seen actually other people have been

3346
02:26:24,950 --> 02:26:22,479
sending me

3347
02:26:27,429 --> 02:26:24,960
very similar things now that they they

3348
02:26:30,550 --> 02:26:27,439
are seeing what the movie is about right

3349
02:26:32,790 --> 02:26:30,560
those openings happen within seconds oh

3350
02:26:34,710 --> 02:26:32,800
i'm not talking about that no i'm

3351
02:26:36,870 --> 02:26:34,720
referring to

3352
02:26:39,910 --> 02:26:36,880
if the tic tacs

3353
02:26:43,030 --> 02:26:39,920
or your object if that if the tic tac at

3354
02:26:45,750 --> 02:26:43,040
80 thousand feet entered our atmosphere

3355
02:26:49,190 --> 02:26:45,760
right traditional sense we would have

3356
02:26:51,830 --> 02:26:49,200
seen that oh right right and reported it

3357
02:26:55,349 --> 02:26:51,840
wasn't there for right

3358
02:26:57,750 --> 02:26:55,359
and did the navy capture this data

3359
02:26:59,670 --> 02:26:57,760
that's what i'm interested in yeah

3360
02:27:00,950 --> 02:26:59,680
i mean you would think so

3361
02:27:02,710 --> 02:27:00,960
right

3362
02:27:04,150 --> 02:27:02,720
how could they not

3363
02:27:06,309 --> 02:27:04,160
why do you think they grabbed those hard

3364
02:27:08,230 --> 02:27:06,319
drives yeah i know it's i mean and you

3365
02:27:11,110 --> 02:27:08,240
saw it it's like why would they take

3366
02:27:13,190 --> 02:27:11,120
these hard drives like that's crazy and

3367
02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:13,200
make them erase it

3368
02:27:15,349 --> 02:27:14,080
isn't it

3369
02:27:17,429 --> 02:27:15,359
the hard drive

3370
02:27:19,270 --> 02:27:17,439
right right right right

3371
02:27:22,150 --> 02:27:19,280
right and uh

3372
02:27:25,990 --> 02:27:22,160
uh caroline can i keep you for another

3373
02:27:28,070 --> 02:27:26,000
segment yeah yeah sure okay good good uh

3374
02:27:30,710 --> 02:27:28,080
what i want to do

3375
02:27:32,469 --> 02:27:30,720
and and i want to go deep with this uh

3376
02:27:34,150 --> 02:27:32,479
when we come back

3377
02:27:36,230 --> 02:27:34,160
with

3378
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:36,240
starseeds

3379
02:27:40,469 --> 02:27:38,880
with um

3380
02:27:42,950 --> 02:27:40,479
the other

3381
02:27:44,870 --> 02:27:42,960
side of this phenomena that you have

3382
02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:44,880
been researching

3383
02:27:50,790 --> 02:27:48,160
is there a way to tie that in to get

3384
02:27:53,349 --> 02:27:50,800
communication going to find out what the

3385
02:27:55,910 --> 02:27:53,359
tic tacs are to find out what you've

3386
02:27:58,630 --> 02:27:55,920
captured now i want you to think about

3387
02:27:59,910 --> 02:27:58,640
that and and we'll talk about that when

3388
02:28:01,510 --> 02:27:59,920
we come back

3389
02:28:07,270 --> 02:28:01,520
when i hear

3390
02:28:09,110 --> 02:28:07,280
and and i hear it spoken this is this is

3391
02:28:11,349 --> 02:28:09,120
the strange thing for me

3392
02:28:12,950 --> 02:28:11,359
i thought

3393
02:28:14,389 --> 02:28:12,960
and like anybody else that would hear it

3394
02:28:15,190 --> 02:28:14,399
for the first time

3395
02:28:17,150 --> 02:28:15,200
that

3396
02:28:19,510 --> 02:28:17,160
this was a

3397
02:28:21,349 --> 02:28:19,520
language as we understand it like you

3398
02:28:23,510 --> 02:28:21,359
and i are speaking right now right that

3399
02:28:26,550 --> 02:28:23,520
we understand and that

3400
02:28:27,910 --> 02:28:26,560
um i feel and we can talk about this

3401
02:28:31,349 --> 02:28:27,920
when we come back

3402
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:31,359
it's more of a vibration it's more of a

3403
02:28:35,990 --> 02:28:32,560
feeling

3404
02:28:37,510 --> 02:28:36,000
it's it's like notes in a song

3405
02:28:40,630 --> 02:28:37,520
right where

3406
02:28:41,590 --> 02:28:40,640
that is and the translation of that

3407
02:28:42,550 --> 02:28:41,600
is

3408
02:28:45,110 --> 02:28:42,560
um

3409
02:28:47,590 --> 02:28:45,120
like looking at a color wave or looking

3410
02:28:50,790 --> 02:28:47,600
at a light wave i was going to say light

3411
02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:50,800
wave right right and so is there a way

3412
02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:53,120
to incorporate that into what you just

3413
02:28:58,389 --> 02:28:56,080
captured in this film and could it help

3414
02:29:00,070 --> 02:28:58,399
you get some of those answers so think

3415
02:29:02,230 --> 02:29:00,080
about that uh

3416
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:02,240
i'm very curious let's take our break

3417
02:29:06,550 --> 02:29:04,160
right here this is fade to black i am

3418
02:29:09,750 --> 02:29:06,560
your host jimmy church tonight

3419
02:29:11,750 --> 02:29:09,760
caroline corey is with us and we are

3420
02:29:14,550 --> 02:29:11,760
talking about the science

3421
02:29:17,510 --> 02:29:14,560
the research that goes into ufos and

3422
02:29:20,150 --> 02:29:17,520
uaps we're going into overtime next with

3423
02:29:21,910 --> 02:29:20,160
caroline you can go to a tear in the sky

3424
02:29:23,990 --> 02:29:21,920
dot com to pre-order the film we've got

3425
02:29:25,750 --> 02:29:24,000
it up in twitter and social media right

3426
02:29:27,830 --> 02:29:25,760
now it's also in the links

3427
02:29:29,830 --> 02:29:27,840
in the description box below this is

3428
02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:29,840
fade to black i'm yours jimmy church

3429
02:29:39,100 --> 02:29:32,170
stay with us we'll be right back

3430
02:29:40,390 --> 02:29:39,110
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3433
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02:30:01,349 --> 02:29:58,950
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3436
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02:34:29,110 --> 02:34:26,469
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3522
02:34:31,590 --> 02:34:29,120
am your host jimmy church

3523
02:34:33,670 --> 02:34:31,600
tonight our guest is caroline corey

3524
02:34:35,670 --> 02:34:33,680
we've been talking about her new film it

3525
02:34:38,070 --> 02:34:35,680
is called a tear in the sky premieres

3526
02:34:40,550 --> 02:34:38,080
may 3rd we've got the links up in social

3527
02:34:41,389 --> 02:34:40,560
media you can go and check that out also

3528
02:34:44,389 --> 02:34:41,399
visit

3529
02:34:47,830 --> 02:34:44,399
carolinecorey.com all over films are

3530
02:34:53,030 --> 02:34:47,840
there and uh right before the break

3531
02:34:54,630 --> 02:34:53,040
uh caroline i was uh talking about

3532
02:34:57,750 --> 02:34:54,640
pulling in your

3533
02:34:59,110 --> 02:34:57,760
your your network your community and

3534
02:35:00,870 --> 02:34:59,120
reaching out

3535
02:35:03,030 --> 02:35:00,880
uh to them

3536
02:35:05,510 --> 02:35:03,040
to have them analyze what you've

3537
02:35:08,550 --> 02:35:05,520
captured

3538
02:35:09,750 --> 02:35:08,560
yes so so we'll see how that data is

3539
02:35:13,030 --> 02:35:09,760
going to be

3540
02:35:15,190 --> 02:35:13,040
uh put out in the public and uh how it's

3541
02:35:17,670 --> 02:35:15,200
going to be um

3542
02:35:19,110 --> 02:35:17,680
uh analyzed even more than what we were

3543
02:35:21,110 --> 02:35:19,120
able to do in the movie i mean the movie

3544
02:35:23,590 --> 02:35:21,120
is an hour and a half and by the way i

3545
02:35:25,190 --> 02:35:23,600
really think everybody should get this

3546
02:35:27,349 --> 02:35:25,200
movie they should get it now they should

3547
02:35:28,870 --> 02:35:27,359
be the first ones to

3548
02:35:29,590 --> 02:35:28,880
you know to

3549
02:35:34,630 --> 02:35:29,600
to

3550
02:35:35,750 --> 02:35:34,640
it's really never been done this way

3551
02:35:37,270 --> 02:35:35,760
before

3552
02:35:39,270 --> 02:35:37,280
and this is the kind of movie you want

3553
02:35:41,910 --> 02:35:39,280
to watch again and again to really kind

3554
02:35:43,349 --> 02:35:41,920
of get your mind around it especially

3555
02:35:45,030 --> 02:35:43,359
and i think that was the question you

3556
02:35:46,790 --> 02:35:45,040
asked before the break about the

3557
02:35:51,429 --> 02:35:46,800
communication

3558
02:35:52,630 --> 02:35:51,439
and so this is also a first in any movie

3559
02:35:54,950 --> 02:35:52,640
actually

3560
02:35:57,349 --> 02:35:54,960
um and you know we were talking about

3561
02:36:00,550 --> 02:35:57,359
communication with consciousness

3562
02:36:02,630 --> 02:36:00,560
but i also wanted to share uh something

3563
02:36:04,790 --> 02:36:02,640
that we've done in the movie thanks to

3564
02:36:07,670 --> 02:36:04,800
david mason's inventions

3565
02:36:11,910 --> 02:36:07,680
and this is um these are instruments

3566
02:36:13,510 --> 02:36:11,920
because to me communication is light

3567
02:36:16,309 --> 02:36:13,520
and it's funny that we call it light

3568
02:36:19,110 --> 02:36:16,319
language isn't it yes so

3569
02:36:21,429 --> 02:36:19,120
so but it's not just light language it's

3570
02:36:24,870 --> 02:36:21,439
literally light if you you can look at

3571
02:36:26,309 --> 02:36:24,880
it as light waves and light is

3572
02:36:27,110 --> 02:36:26,319
information

3573
02:36:30,389 --> 02:36:27,120
so

3574
02:36:33,990 --> 02:36:30,399
you wonder

3575
02:36:34,870 --> 02:36:34,000
when these ufos are emitting

3576
02:36:36,790 --> 02:36:34,880
uh

3577
02:36:37,910 --> 02:36:36,800
throbbing you know they're emitting some

3578
02:36:40,469 --> 02:36:37,920
sort of

3579
02:36:41,750 --> 02:36:40,479
pulsation they're emitting light

3580
02:36:45,429 --> 02:36:41,760
um

3581
02:36:47,110 --> 02:36:45,439
uh the idea is could it be that because

3582
02:36:49,030 --> 02:36:47,120
obviously they know what they're going i

3583
02:36:51,750 --> 02:36:49,040
mean they're just hovering they're not

3584
02:36:54,150 --> 02:36:51,760
necessarily using it as a mode of

3585
02:36:56,710 --> 02:36:54,160
motion to know where they're going or to

3586
02:36:58,950 --> 02:36:56,720
see what's in front of them like we have

3587
02:37:00,790 --> 02:36:58,960
spotlights or something

3588
02:37:02,950 --> 02:37:00,800
when they're just hanging there and just

3589
02:37:05,030 --> 02:37:02,960
like throbbing is it possible that they

3590
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:05,040
could be emitting some sort of signal

3591
02:37:10,790 --> 02:37:08,319
some sort of communication pattern

3592
02:37:12,710 --> 02:37:10,800
and so other than the community other

3593
02:37:17,349 --> 02:37:12,720
than the consciousness

3594
02:37:21,030 --> 02:37:17,359
subject in the movie we actually have uh

3595
02:37:25,030 --> 02:37:21,040
david mason's devices and instruments

3596
02:37:27,190 --> 02:37:25,040
that are capable of capturing

3597
02:37:29,990 --> 02:37:27,200
these light patterns

3598
02:37:33,030 --> 02:37:30,000
so you're looking at with the night

3599
02:37:34,950 --> 02:37:33,040
vision right you're looking at this ufo

3600
02:37:36,389 --> 02:37:34,960
object and it's throbbing right it's

3601
02:37:38,309 --> 02:37:36,399
pulsating

3602
02:37:40,710 --> 02:37:38,319
and through a device this is his

3603
02:37:42,870 --> 02:37:40,720
invention it's an original invention so

3604
02:37:45,830 --> 02:37:42,880
and through this device

3605
02:37:47,270 --> 02:37:45,840
you capture the light that's that you're

3606
02:37:51,270 --> 02:37:47,280
looking at

3607
02:37:55,190 --> 02:37:51,280
and it converts it into a sound

3608
02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:55,200
so if you do that over and over you can

3609
02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:59,200
eventually decode what this pattern is

3610
02:38:03,030 --> 02:38:01,200
and see if it's actually a mode of

3611
02:38:05,830 --> 02:38:03,040
communication

3612
02:38:08,870 --> 02:38:05,840
i i actually converted that and listened

3613
02:38:13,110 --> 02:38:08,880
to it and you know what it said

3614
02:38:18,870 --> 02:38:17,110
but here's here's here's another way to

3615
02:38:21,670 --> 02:38:18,880
look at it

3616
02:38:22,710 --> 02:38:21,680
could you okay so let's

3617
02:38:24,070 --> 02:38:22,720
let's

3618
02:38:25,110 --> 02:38:24,080
say

3619
02:38:27,110 --> 02:38:25,120
that

3620
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:27,120
they're saying hello

3621
02:38:31,590 --> 02:38:28,479
in their language

3622
02:38:35,910 --> 02:38:31,600
yes and you turn around and capture the

3623
02:38:37,270 --> 02:38:35,920
light wave and beam that back to them

3624
02:38:39,510 --> 02:38:37,280
yes exactly

3625
02:38:42,389 --> 02:38:39,520
and then you say hello back

3626
02:38:44,150 --> 02:38:42,399
or it could be saying we're here to you

3627
02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:44,160
know take your children

3628
02:38:49,190 --> 02:38:46,240
and that you mean back well yeah well

3629
02:38:53,190 --> 02:38:49,200
we're going to take yours

3630
02:38:55,670 --> 02:38:53,200
but is there a way is he working on that

3631
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:55,680
type of idea i i love the sound

3632
02:39:00,389 --> 02:38:58,240
conversion that is really great

3633
02:39:02,870 --> 02:39:00,399
um it reminds me of mars attacks

3634
02:39:04,389 --> 02:39:02,880
remember they do the translation

3635
02:39:05,910 --> 02:39:04,399
and and

3636
02:39:08,710 --> 02:39:05,920
but um

3637
02:39:12,070 --> 02:39:08,720
converting it to sound waves is is is a

3638
02:39:14,389 --> 02:39:12,080
great approach but is he

3639
02:39:17,190 --> 02:39:14,399
did you guys talk about beaming back the

3640
02:39:18,309 --> 02:39:17,200
same light yeah exactly that's the idea

3641
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:18,319
so then

3642
02:39:23,190 --> 02:39:20,960
he's got a machine and there's a device

3643
02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:23,200
people can watch the the way it's

3644
02:39:26,790 --> 02:39:24,640
explained in the movie i mean i'm

3645
02:39:27,910 --> 02:39:26,800
telling you this movie is like

3646
02:39:30,469 --> 02:39:27,920
yeah i know it's

3647
02:39:32,950 --> 02:39:30,479
next level but anyway so they can see

3648
02:39:35,429 --> 02:39:32,960
that invention and then it converts it

3649
02:39:38,870 --> 02:39:35,439
back into a signal that goes back to the

3650
02:39:40,710 --> 02:39:38,880
source that emitted it so it's like

3651
02:39:42,550 --> 02:39:40,720
so it goes bad whatever message you

3652
02:39:44,710 --> 02:39:42,560
receive converts it into sound and it

3653
02:39:45,750 --> 02:39:44,720
goes back to to that source

3654
02:39:48,070 --> 02:39:45,760
and so

3655
02:39:50,309 --> 02:39:48,080
you know the idea so what we did in the

3656
02:39:52,469 --> 02:39:50,319
movie is demonstrate that for the first

3657
02:39:55,270 --> 02:39:52,479
time but what if

3658
02:39:58,710 --> 02:39:55,280
we can do this over and over

3659
02:40:01,910 --> 02:39:58,720
and correlate it with an actual object

3660
02:40:04,469 --> 02:40:01,920
you know and then of course repeated so

3661
02:40:07,590 --> 02:40:04,479
that we can capture enough light

3662
02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:07,600
patterns to eventually

3663
02:40:13,190 --> 02:40:10,800
decode whatever those patterns are

3664
02:40:16,630 --> 02:40:13,200
now we are

3665
02:40:18,070 --> 02:40:16,640
understanding the communication patterns

3666
02:40:19,990 --> 02:40:18,080
of ufos

3667
02:40:22,230 --> 02:40:20,000
and even if it's not communication like

3668
02:40:24,550 --> 02:40:22,240
hello we're here to visit you know not

3669
02:40:25,750 --> 02:40:24,560
that sort of communication

3670
02:40:26,630 --> 02:40:25,760
maybe

3671
02:40:29,349 --> 02:40:26,640
it's

3672
02:40:31,750 --> 02:40:29,359
just the vehicle itself like maybe it

3673
02:40:35,030 --> 02:40:31,760
gives us information

3674
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:35,040
about the the vehicle itself so in other

3675
02:40:39,830 --> 02:40:37,920
words we we can't expect always that it

3676
02:40:42,389 --> 02:40:39,840
has to be like a language you know like

3677
02:40:44,070 --> 02:40:42,399
a like a message you know we come in

3678
02:40:46,389 --> 02:40:44,080
peace blah blah blah

3679
02:40:49,670 --> 02:40:46,399
you know but but what i'm saying is this

3680
02:40:51,990 --> 02:40:49,680
is data it's it's a pattern

3681
02:40:55,750 --> 02:40:52,000
of uh information

3682
02:40:58,630 --> 02:40:55,760
light patterns that is data coming out

3683
02:41:02,389 --> 02:40:58,640
of this uh anomalous object

3684
02:41:04,469 --> 02:41:02,399
very valuable except for valuable

3685
02:41:06,870 --> 02:41:04,479
and and going back to

3686
02:41:10,870 --> 02:41:06,880
where i was headed with this originally

3687
02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:10,880
what about giving this data to light

3688
02:41:13,590 --> 02:41:12,240
workers

3689
02:41:14,950 --> 02:41:13,600
and having them

3690
02:41:16,870 --> 02:41:14,960
do their

3691
02:41:21,510 --> 02:41:16,880
interpolation i've said interpolation

3692
02:41:27,990 --> 02:41:25,510
i think interpolate would be better than

3693
02:41:29,190 --> 02:41:28,000
no i think interpolates the right word

3694
02:41:31,269 --> 02:41:29,200
in in

3695
02:41:32,389 --> 02:41:31,279
handing this over to the light worker

3696
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:32,399
community

3697
02:41:38,389 --> 02:41:35,600
that would hear and see this differently

3698
02:41:40,630 --> 02:41:38,399
exactly so that's that's from a device

3699
02:41:42,870 --> 02:41:40,640
technological point of view which is

3700
02:41:45,429 --> 02:41:42,880
again to me that's like totally next

3701
02:41:47,429 --> 02:41:45,439
level but now from a consciousness point

3702
02:41:49,030 --> 02:41:47,439
of view you know you have all the c5 you

3703
02:41:50,389 --> 02:41:49,040
know all this type of communication

3704
02:41:51,429 --> 02:41:50,399
trying to happen

3705
02:41:53,750 --> 02:41:51,439
and then

3706
02:41:57,349 --> 02:41:53,760
so the people who speak in light

3707
02:42:00,309 --> 02:41:57,359
language they are actually capturing

3708
02:42:03,190 --> 02:42:00,319
some sort of sound

3709
02:42:05,590 --> 02:42:03,200
and emitting it through voice in other

3710
02:42:07,670 --> 02:42:05,600
words it's kind of the same thing except

3711
02:42:09,190 --> 02:42:07,680
it's not a device they're using their

3712
02:42:10,830 --> 02:42:09,200
consciousness

3713
02:42:13,269 --> 02:42:10,840
to pick up that

3714
02:42:15,429 --> 02:42:13,279
pattern and then

3715
02:42:17,190 --> 02:42:15,439
they're just transmitting it back just

3716
02:42:19,110 --> 02:42:17,200
like that device did it whatever it

3717
02:42:21,349 --> 02:42:19,120
receives it transmits it back it

3718
02:42:24,309 --> 02:42:21,359
transmits it so so they're transmitting

3719
02:42:27,670 --> 02:42:24,319
it back and just allowing the vocal cord

3720
02:42:29,670 --> 02:42:27,680
to just do whatever and it comes out

3721
02:42:30,790 --> 02:42:29,680
in a weird language

3722
02:42:33,670 --> 02:42:30,800
and so

3723
02:42:35,670 --> 02:42:33,680
i mean i've seen that happen so

3724
02:42:37,910 --> 02:42:35,680
so many times in like

3725
02:42:41,030 --> 02:42:37,920
so many different ways

3726
02:42:42,630 --> 02:42:41,040
that it's it's fascinating and it's like

3727
02:42:46,389 --> 02:42:42,640
sounds good

3728
02:42:50,950 --> 02:42:46,399
now are you able to yourself personally

3729
02:42:53,510 --> 02:42:50,960
to translate a a light language can you

3730
02:42:54,389 --> 02:42:53,520
understand it and then translate it

3731
02:42:56,150 --> 02:42:54,399
yourself

3732
02:42:58,389 --> 02:42:56,160
yeah so this is kind of going back to

3733
02:43:01,190 --> 02:42:58,399
the story when i was five years old so

3734
02:43:03,429 --> 02:43:01,200
this is actually how telepathy works you

3735
02:43:04,469 --> 02:43:03,439
know you're not so sometimes if if

3736
02:43:06,870 --> 02:43:04,479
you're

3737
02:43:09,830 --> 02:43:06,880
communicating with an entity that's not

3738
02:43:12,389 --> 02:43:09,840
from earth or you know so

3739
02:43:14,790 --> 02:43:12,399
or so it's not like they speak english

3740
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:14,800
or french or chinese it it's not like

3741
02:43:18,550 --> 02:43:16,960
that or even if you're telepathically

3742
02:43:21,750 --> 02:43:18,560
communicating with somebody who doesn't

3743
02:43:24,710 --> 02:43:21,760
speak your language so it's not a human

3744
02:43:27,269 --> 02:43:24,720
language it's a thought it's a pattern

3745
02:43:29,910 --> 02:43:27,279
and that pattern is in the form of light

3746
02:43:30,950 --> 02:43:29,920
it's a light pattern it's a it's a light

3747
02:43:33,910 --> 02:43:30,960
wave

3748
02:43:36,870 --> 02:43:33,920
that went from this being consciousness

3749
02:43:39,990 --> 02:43:36,880
to your consciousness and when it enters

3750
02:43:42,630 --> 02:43:40,000
your consciousness your brain knows how

3751
02:43:44,469 --> 02:43:42,640
to decode it because it's we're talking

3752
02:43:47,429 --> 02:43:44,479
consciousness now we're not talking the

3753
02:43:51,429 --> 02:43:47,439
device knows how to decode it

3754
02:43:53,190 --> 02:43:51,439
and translate it into a language or an

3755
02:43:55,269 --> 02:43:53,200
understanding something that you

3756
02:43:56,150 --> 02:43:55,279
understand so it's kind of like a zip

3757
02:43:58,550 --> 02:43:56,160
drive

3758
02:44:00,469 --> 02:43:58,560
so so you're so if i'm telepathically

3759
02:44:02,309 --> 02:44:00,479
communicating with you i'm i'm gonna

3760
02:44:04,469 --> 02:44:02,319
send you a zip drive whether i

3761
02:44:06,389 --> 02:44:04,479
understand your language or not

3762
02:44:07,990 --> 02:44:06,399
but then you're br so if you look at the

3763
02:44:09,429 --> 02:44:08,000
zip drive you don't know what is it

3764
02:44:10,469 --> 02:44:09,439
what's in it

3765
02:44:12,950 --> 02:44:10,479
right

3766
02:44:15,190 --> 02:44:12,960
but then once the zip drive is in your

3767
02:44:17,910 --> 02:44:15,200
brain it unzips

3768
02:44:20,150 --> 02:44:17,920
in the language that you speak in the

3769
02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:20,160
language that i speak the chinese

3770
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:22,240
language that they speak if that makes

3771
02:44:25,590 --> 02:44:23,120
sense

3772
02:44:27,269 --> 02:44:25,600
so the light language is kind of the

3773
02:44:29,670 --> 02:44:27,279
medium

3774
02:44:31,429 --> 02:44:29,680
that is common to all of intelligent

3775
02:44:32,870 --> 02:44:31,439
life

3776
02:44:34,389 --> 02:44:32,880
so

3777
02:44:36,309 --> 02:44:34,399
you can

3778
02:44:37,750 --> 02:44:36,319
you i'm speaking about you specifically

3779
02:44:41,349 --> 02:44:37,760
because i've seen

3780
02:44:43,349 --> 02:44:41,359
uh translators of light action in

3781
02:44:44,950 --> 02:44:43,359
in action in in real time it's

3782
02:44:46,630 --> 02:44:44,960
fascinating

3783
02:44:51,429 --> 02:44:46,640
to see this go down

3784
02:44:53,110 --> 02:44:52,309
right

3785
02:44:56,230 --> 02:44:53,120
so

3786
02:44:59,349 --> 02:44:56,240
you've got this star seed this child

3787
02:45:01,830 --> 02:44:59,359
this adult speaking light language are

3788
02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:01,840
you translating in real time carolina

3789
02:45:06,230 --> 02:45:04,640
yes i am and also i wanted to show i

3790
02:45:08,710 --> 02:45:06,240
don't know if i can show it to you but i

3791
02:45:10,950 --> 02:45:08,720
also write it

3792
02:45:14,469 --> 02:45:10,960
what i write it yeah

3793
02:45:17,030 --> 02:45:14,479
and it's not human language women

3794
02:45:19,590 --> 02:45:17,040
have i seen you do this before i don't

3795
02:45:21,590 --> 02:45:19,600
know but i i'm trying i'm gonna create i

3796
02:45:23,990 --> 02:45:21,600
actually have an here i have some i

3797
02:45:25,750 --> 02:45:24,000
don't know if you can see it can you see

3798
02:45:28,950 --> 02:45:25,760
yeah put it up to the camera uh it's

3799
02:45:32,389 --> 02:45:28,960
gotta go closer closer to the camera

3800
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:32,399
um no we can't see it

3801
02:45:39,510 --> 02:45:36,160
oh shoot it's covering me

3802
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:42,309
uh you know what you see a little bit

3803
02:45:47,349 --> 02:45:44,479
okay hold on a minute i'll get it up on

3804
02:45:50,070 --> 02:45:47,359
the screen text it to me

3805
02:45:51,670 --> 02:45:50,080
text it to me i'll get a screen yeah so

3806
02:45:55,190 --> 02:45:51,680
this is just like i don't know just kind

3807
02:45:56,469 --> 02:45:55,200
of so this is uh now this is a lot of

3808
02:45:58,389 --> 02:45:56,479
people are going to think it's so

3809
02:46:01,110 --> 02:45:58,399
totally crazy but i don't care i i don't

3810
02:46:05,190 --> 02:46:01,120
think it's crazy at all but anyway all

3811
02:46:08,150 --> 02:46:05,200
right so so i just texted it so um so

3812
02:46:10,870 --> 02:46:08,160
what happens is that sometimes uh

3813
02:46:12,389 --> 02:46:10,880
so message message comes or or

3814
02:46:14,469 --> 02:46:12,399
information comes

3815
02:46:15,830 --> 02:46:14,479
as a light but then it comes out in

3816
02:46:19,190 --> 02:46:15,840
writing

3817
02:46:24,469 --> 02:46:22,070
i'm pulling it up now okay

3818
02:46:27,670 --> 02:46:24,479
this is crazy now uh

3819
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:27,680
no it hasn't come in yet oh okay

3820
02:46:34,389 --> 02:46:29,680
oh you know what because i'm in airplane

3821
02:46:34,399 --> 02:46:38,790
speaking of airplane mode

3822
02:46:43,830 --> 02:46:41,750
yeah keep going let's keep going

3823
02:46:46,790 --> 02:46:43,840
but i've seen people write light

3824
02:46:48,230 --> 02:46:46,800
language down too as well and

3825
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:48,240
uh

3826
02:46:53,990 --> 02:46:50,720
there is a phenomenon here

3827
02:46:56,790 --> 02:46:54,000
that is going on and when we have it's

3828
02:46:59,670 --> 02:46:56,800
not a dozen people we're talking about

3829
02:47:03,110 --> 02:46:59,680
thousands maybe millions of people that

3830
02:47:06,070 --> 02:47:03,120
that are able to do this yes and it's

3831
02:47:07,670 --> 02:47:06,080
not i don't think you know there are

3832
02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:07,680
it's some kind of psychosis you know

3833
02:47:11,910 --> 02:47:09,520
they've got some kind of disorder it's

3834
02:47:12,790 --> 02:47:11,920
some kind of chemi no it's not

3835
02:47:15,030 --> 02:47:12,800
and

3836
02:47:16,070 --> 02:47:15,040
we're talking about some very normal

3837
02:47:18,309 --> 02:47:16,080
people

3838
02:47:19,750 --> 02:47:18,319
that one day

3839
02:47:20,469 --> 02:47:19,760
something comes out of their mouth and

3840
02:47:24,389 --> 02:47:20,479
they

3841
02:47:27,670 --> 02:47:24,399
themselves too

3842
02:47:29,750 --> 02:47:27,680
um and then they are able to uh

3843
02:47:33,190 --> 02:47:29,760
uh practice

3844
02:47:36,070 --> 02:47:33,200
and and go back and repeat this uh and

3845
02:47:38,710 --> 02:47:36,080
and go to it um i think it's purely

3846
02:47:41,590 --> 02:47:38,720
vibrational it is light it it is a wave

3847
02:47:44,790 --> 02:47:41,600
it's a frequency that's coming through

3848
02:47:46,389 --> 02:47:44,800
and uh and it's spoken okay here it is

3849
02:47:48,389 --> 02:47:46,399
now i wanna say something you know i

3850
02:47:51,030 --> 02:47:48,399
wanna say something a lot of people who

3851
02:47:53,910 --> 02:47:51,040
thinks is totally crazy like we are

3852
02:47:56,790 --> 02:47:53,920
crazy right now first of all first of

3853
02:47:58,870 --> 02:47:56,800
all there are so many crazy people that

3854
02:48:01,590 --> 02:47:58,880
are doing crazy things

3855
02:48:04,389 --> 02:48:01,600
that even if you don't believe it's it's

3856
02:48:07,510 --> 02:48:04,399
it's enough people to at least make you

3857
02:48:09,510 --> 02:48:07,520
wonder make you at least be curious how

3858
02:48:11,750 --> 02:48:09,520
this could be possible so that's number

3859
02:48:13,510 --> 02:48:11,760
one and second

3860
02:48:15,910 --> 02:48:13,520
how many people thought

3861
02:48:17,910 --> 02:48:15,920
galileo was crazy or like we thought the

3862
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:17,920
earth was flat or this or that you know

3863
02:48:21,590 --> 02:48:20,160
at the time they're like oh my god he

3864
02:48:23,990 --> 02:48:21,600
needs to be

3865
02:48:26,070 --> 02:48:24,000
you know put in jail burnt

3866
02:48:29,110 --> 02:48:26,080
burn at the state you know it sticks you

3867
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:29,120
know like so now we are the ones

3868
02:48:33,590 --> 02:48:30,640
being crazy

3869
02:48:36,230 --> 02:48:33,600
but you'll see in like 10 years 20 years

3870
02:48:39,190 --> 02:48:36,240
50 years from now we're gonna be like

3871
02:48:41,190 --> 02:48:39,200
the geniuses i think

3872
02:48:42,590 --> 02:48:41,200
okay

3873
02:48:44,550 --> 02:48:42,600
wow

3874
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:44,560
[Music]

3875
02:48:49,510 --> 02:48:47,439
oh my god consciousness

3876
02:48:50,870 --> 02:48:49,520
is so scary

3877
02:48:54,389 --> 02:48:50,880
let me uh

3878
02:48:56,550 --> 02:48:54,399
let me find okay i've got it right here

3879
02:48:57,429 --> 02:48:56,560
and just so i can find it easier just

3880
02:48:59,190 --> 02:48:57,439
let me

3881
02:49:01,269 --> 02:48:59,200
rename this and then i'm going to pop

3882
02:49:04,389 --> 02:49:01,279
this up on the screen everybody

3883
02:49:07,429 --> 02:49:04,399
you can show it like this now

3884
02:49:09,510 --> 02:49:07,439
let's see oh i might let's see i don't

3885
02:49:10,950 --> 02:49:09,520
know if i ca let's see

3886
02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:10,960
let me see

3887
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:24,720
import this as a slide

3888
02:49:27,910 --> 02:49:26,479
let's show it on your phone

3889
02:49:29,750 --> 02:49:27,920
see if it's probably better because i

3890
02:49:31,990 --> 02:49:29,760
have the green screen that's acting up

3891
02:49:35,910 --> 02:49:32,000
like crazy but probably

3892
02:49:40,230 --> 02:49:36,950
uh

3893
02:49:43,030 --> 02:49:40,240
no invalid file type okay never mind

3894
02:49:45,190 --> 02:49:43,040
yeah no it's okay this is it everybody

3895
02:49:48,469 --> 02:49:45,200
i'm going to hold it up to the screen oh

3896
02:49:48,479 --> 02:49:53,030
we could see crazy stuff

3897
02:49:56,309 --> 02:49:54,550
oh my god

3898
02:49:57,830 --> 02:49:56,319
what does this say

3899
02:50:00,150 --> 02:49:57,840
the speaking

3900
02:50:02,550 --> 02:50:00,160
uh of science right

3901
02:50:04,469 --> 02:50:02,560
people are gonna go like how do you go

3902
02:50:08,469 --> 02:50:04,479
from science to this

3903
02:50:11,590 --> 02:50:08,479
go figure this is science of the future

3904
02:50:15,030 --> 02:50:11,600
it's uh it's divine wisdom it's like uh

3905
02:50:22,550 --> 02:50:15,040
like the history kind of like the

3906
02:50:28,630 --> 02:50:25,670
anyway let's keep going no i love this i

3907
02:50:29,670 --> 02:50:28,640
love this and um

3908
02:50:32,230 --> 02:50:29,680
how

3909
02:50:33,670 --> 02:50:32,240
okay uh just really quick this is in

3910
02:50:35,349 --> 02:50:33,680
columns

3911
02:50:37,830 --> 02:50:35,359
yes

3912
02:50:41,349 --> 02:50:37,840
and why is it in columns is it written

3913
02:50:43,670 --> 02:50:41,359
uh top uh from uh top to bottom

3914
02:50:46,469 --> 02:50:43,680
no actually i think i was writing yeah i

3915
02:50:49,590 --> 02:50:46,479
was writing i was writing like like this

3916
02:50:51,830 --> 02:50:49,600
uh top to bottom yeah and then like

3917
02:50:54,070 --> 02:50:51,840
next column and next column

3918
02:50:55,269 --> 02:50:54,080
do you know what the headers are on each

3919
02:50:58,150 --> 02:50:55,279
column

3920
02:51:00,150 --> 02:50:58,160
so i don't know like so so i don't know

3921
02:51:02,790 --> 02:51:00,160
this language in other words like these

3922
02:51:04,950 --> 02:51:02,800
aren't letters necessarily you know it's

3923
02:51:06,790 --> 02:51:04,960
not like abc whatever

3924
02:51:09,590 --> 02:51:06,800
it's kind of like the kanji in japan

3925
02:51:12,150 --> 02:51:09,600
japanese or you know or chinese the

3926
02:51:14,950 --> 02:51:12,160
hiragana you know those types of things

3927
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:14,960
and so so it's it's more of a so for

3928
02:51:20,550 --> 02:51:16,720
those because i speak japanese too

3929
02:51:23,269 --> 02:51:20,560
actually so so those uh symbols those

3930
02:51:25,830 --> 02:51:23,279
characters mean sometimes it's one

3931
02:51:26,550 --> 02:51:25,840
character that means an entire word

3932
02:51:28,550 --> 02:51:26,560
sure

3933
02:51:32,309 --> 02:51:28,560
it's a little bit like that

3934
02:51:33,429 --> 02:51:32,319
and so um and then like one whole

3935
02:51:35,750 --> 02:51:33,439
section

3936
02:51:37,429 --> 02:51:35,760
it's a whole chapter if you will it's

3937
02:51:38,389 --> 02:51:37,439
like condensed

3938
02:51:42,070 --> 02:51:38,399
how

3939
02:51:43,349 --> 02:51:42,080
when you write this or anybody else that

3940
02:51:45,830 --> 02:51:43,359
is doing this

3941
02:51:48,630 --> 02:51:45,840
are you in a meditative state are you

3942
02:51:51,510 --> 02:51:48,640
fully conscious are you wide awake

3943
02:51:53,830 --> 02:51:51,520
well now i'm so i've been doing

3944
02:51:56,230 --> 02:51:53,840
meditation like my whole life so i mean

3945
02:51:58,309 --> 02:51:56,240
it doesn't take me forever to kind of be

3946
02:52:01,670 --> 02:51:58,319
in that state of alignment so it's more

3947
02:52:03,190 --> 02:52:01,680
of a an intentional thing and then i can

3948
02:52:05,030 --> 02:52:03,200
pretty much uh

3949
02:52:06,790 --> 02:52:05,040
you know but it's kind of like what you

3950
02:52:08,469 --> 02:52:06,800
were saying the people who speak the

3951
02:52:10,550 --> 02:52:08,479
language it just comes out of them and

3952
02:52:12,469 --> 02:52:10,560
it's like what what just happened here

3953
02:52:13,670 --> 02:52:12,479
it's a little bit like that like i don't

3954
02:52:15,910 --> 02:52:13,680
really

3955
02:52:18,870 --> 02:52:15,920
force it i don't look for it it just

3956
02:52:20,630 --> 02:52:18,880
like happens sometimes and and how

3957
02:52:21,830 --> 02:52:20,640
quickly

3958
02:52:23,830 --> 02:52:21,840
i'm just going to show it to everybody

3959
02:52:26,870 --> 02:52:23,840
again i'm fascinated with this

3960
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:26,880
how quickly uh do you do this when i was

3961
02:52:33,510 --> 02:52:30,080
a kid um and i've talked about this a

3962
02:52:36,630 --> 02:52:33,520
lot on the air caroline my mom used to

3963
02:52:40,469 --> 02:52:36,640
do automatic writing yeah

3964
02:52:42,389 --> 02:52:40,479
well and when i i'm i'm five i'm six i'm

3965
02:52:44,389 --> 02:52:42,399
seven years old i'm a kid i can't even

3966
02:52:46,630 --> 02:52:44,399
see on top of the table right

3967
02:52:49,110 --> 02:52:46,640
and i see my mom with a stack of paper

3968
02:52:51,269 --> 02:52:49,120
and a pen and

3969
02:52:54,389 --> 02:52:51,279
us kids are going to bed

3970
02:52:57,110 --> 02:52:54,399
she's just starting her evening

3971
02:52:59,830 --> 02:52:57,120
okay and i would watch her do this she

3972
02:53:01,030 --> 02:52:59,840
would look up to the ceiling and and she

3973
02:53:03,910 --> 02:53:01,040
would write

3974
02:53:04,870 --> 02:53:03,920
right she would never look at the pen

3975
02:53:06,550 --> 02:53:04,880
and

3976
02:53:10,469 --> 02:53:06,560
get up in the morning to go to school

3977
02:53:13,990 --> 02:53:10,479
and that stack of paper is flipped over

3978
02:53:16,790 --> 02:53:14,000
right she did a ream of paper

3979
02:53:17,510 --> 02:53:16,800
overnight and i asked her caroline i'm

3980
02:53:18,710 --> 02:53:17,520
like

3981
02:53:21,110 --> 02:53:18,720
my mom

3982
02:53:22,710 --> 02:53:21,120
what's up you know i'm i'm just a little

3983
02:53:23,590 --> 02:53:22,720
kid caroline

3984
02:53:27,349 --> 02:53:23,600
what do

3985
02:53:29,750 --> 02:53:27,359
uh i don't know would you write

3986
02:53:33,670 --> 02:53:29,760
don't know

3987
02:53:34,389 --> 02:53:33,680
writing and and

3988
02:53:37,030 --> 02:53:34,399
so

3989
02:53:39,030 --> 02:53:37,040
later your mom that's amazing

3990
02:53:41,190 --> 02:53:39,040
yeah yeah yeah yeah i watched her do

3991
02:53:42,469 --> 02:53:41,200
this all the time so

3992
02:53:45,990 --> 02:53:42,479
later on

3993
02:53:46,950 --> 02:53:46,000
now my mom is 80 right i'm on the phone

3994
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:46,960
with her

3995
02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:49,840
and uh i said hey mom

3996
02:53:53,750 --> 02:53:51,600
what about that automatic writing stuff

3997
02:53:57,190 --> 02:53:53,760
oh that was then

3998
02:54:00,309 --> 02:53:57,200
now so she when i saw her do this

3999
02:54:03,269 --> 02:54:00,319
if i'm five she was 25

4000
02:54:06,230 --> 02:54:03,279
right she's a kid she's 25 26 27 years

4001
02:54:08,630 --> 02:54:06,240
old she's a kid doing this and so i said

4002
02:54:12,070 --> 02:54:08,640
no but mom you remember the edgar cayce

4003
02:54:14,070 --> 02:54:12,080
books and this and the ouija board nah

4004
02:54:17,110 --> 02:54:14,080
that was that was that was then i don't

4005
02:54:20,070 --> 02:54:17,120
do that stuff now mom i want to know

4006
02:54:22,630 --> 02:54:20,080
can we you want to come on the show and

4007
02:54:25,510 --> 02:54:22,640
and talk about this because it freaked

4008
02:54:28,309 --> 02:54:25,520
me out i loved it when i was a kid you

4009
02:54:31,750 --> 02:54:28,319
were the cool mom no and

4010
02:54:33,510 --> 02:54:31,760
no i just no no no

4011
02:54:35,190 --> 02:54:33,520
i wanted to get the answers out of her

4012
02:54:36,710 --> 02:54:35,200
caroline what is it that you were

4013
02:54:40,309 --> 02:54:36,720
writing what is it that you were

4014
02:54:43,349 --> 02:54:40,319
interested in what were you asking

4015
02:54:44,870 --> 02:54:43,359
how are you connecting you're channeling

4016
02:54:47,750 --> 02:54:44,880
something in

4017
02:54:49,429 --> 02:54:47,760
right but no she absolutely closed me

4018
02:54:51,429 --> 02:54:49,439
down

4019
02:54:54,550 --> 02:54:51,439
yeah yeah it's interesting and you know

4020
02:54:57,830 --> 02:54:54,560
the more we talk about this the more uh

4021
02:54:59,990 --> 02:54:57,840
people come out you know and say oh i

4022
02:55:02,710 --> 02:55:00,000
remember one time i was lying in bed and

4023
02:55:05,190 --> 02:55:02,720
i felt a presence and you know like

4024
02:55:06,550 --> 02:55:05,200
everybody's had some sort of weird

4025
02:55:09,429 --> 02:55:06,560
experience

4026
02:55:10,630 --> 02:55:09,439
even the most skeptics even the most

4027
02:55:13,910 --> 02:55:10,640
whatever

4028
02:55:16,230 --> 02:55:13,920
they've had some sort of something some

4029
02:55:18,389 --> 02:55:16,240
weird synchronicity or they send

4030
02:55:20,950 --> 02:55:18,399
something or blah blah blah

4031
02:55:22,230 --> 02:55:20,960
so yeah i mean

4032
02:55:24,550 --> 02:55:22,240
this

4033
02:55:27,510 --> 02:55:24,560
whatever is happening

4034
02:55:30,870 --> 02:55:27,520
it's to me and i think that's

4035
02:55:32,870 --> 02:55:30,880
my role in filmmaking is

4036
02:55:34,309 --> 02:55:32,880
all of these subjects that we call

4037
02:55:37,910 --> 02:55:34,319
paranormal

4038
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:37,920
i am trying to make them normal because

4039
02:55:42,950 --> 02:55:41,760
they're way too uh widespread very very

4040
02:55:46,070 --> 02:55:42,960
common

4041
02:55:47,750 --> 02:55:46,080
99 of the population is experiencing

4042
02:55:49,429 --> 02:55:47,760
some sort of

4043
02:55:51,750 --> 02:55:49,439
anomaly

4044
02:55:55,429 --> 02:55:51,760
that cannot be explained scientifically

4045
02:55:58,389 --> 02:55:55,439
so why not look into it seriously

4046
02:56:01,830 --> 02:55:58,399
and see what that is about

4047
02:56:03,910 --> 02:56:01,840
and so everything that you described um

4048
02:56:05,190 --> 02:56:03,920
my i think my grandmother used to see

4049
02:56:06,230 --> 02:56:05,200
angels

4050
02:56:09,030 --> 02:56:06,240
uh

4051
02:56:12,150 --> 02:56:09,040
you know since she used to say oh i see

4052
02:56:15,510 --> 02:56:12,160
the angels and i'm talking to them you

4053
02:56:16,790 --> 02:56:15,520
know a lot of children have invisible

4054
02:56:19,590 --> 02:56:16,800
friends

4055
02:56:21,429 --> 02:56:19,600
you know so i mean it's it's

4056
02:56:23,510 --> 02:56:21,439
there's something out there we just need

4057
02:56:25,990 --> 02:56:23,520
to understand it better so i'm sorry

4058
02:56:28,870 --> 02:56:26,000
that your mom kind of gave it up that's

4059
02:56:31,830 --> 02:56:28,880
like me down and she shut me down man it

4060
02:56:35,670 --> 02:56:31,840
was like boom and and here's this is

4061
02:56:37,670 --> 02:56:35,680
what uh i love and i hear this so often

4062
02:56:40,710 --> 02:56:37,680
so a

4063
02:56:43,429 --> 02:56:40,720
30 year old 40 year old son or daughter

4064
02:56:45,190 --> 02:56:43,439
is sitting with their 50 60 year old mom

4065
02:56:47,349 --> 02:56:45,200
and they're watching ancient aliens

4066
02:56:48,550 --> 02:56:47,359
whatever right they're watching a tear

4067
02:56:51,349 --> 02:56:48,560
in the sky

4068
02:56:53,450 --> 02:56:51,359
and and mom goes

4069
02:56:55,269 --> 02:56:53,460
yeah i saw a ufo once what

4070
02:56:56,870 --> 02:56:55,279
[Laughter]

4071
02:56:58,230 --> 02:56:56,880
you never told me about that i kind of

4072
02:57:00,469 --> 02:56:58,240
forgot about it but yeah it was pretty

4073
02:57:02,790 --> 02:57:00,479
cool the the aliens came off the ship

4074
02:57:05,190 --> 02:57:02,800
and they came up and they gave me my

4075
02:57:08,230 --> 02:57:05,200
tuna casserole recipe and that's what we

4076
02:57:11,510 --> 02:57:08,240
eat what do you mean you never told this

4077
02:57:14,550 --> 02:57:11,520
right and no yeah yeah me it was me it

4078
02:57:17,110 --> 02:57:14,560
was your aunt betty and we were all out

4079
02:57:18,870 --> 02:57:17,120
in the backyard and and the flying

4080
02:57:21,510 --> 02:57:18,880
saucer was there

4081
02:57:23,510 --> 02:57:21,520
and it never gets talked about and a lot

4082
02:57:26,550 --> 02:57:23,520
of it like you're saying it gets

4083
02:57:28,389 --> 02:57:26,560
forgotten forgotten right it's it's it's

4084
02:57:32,710 --> 02:57:28,399
something in your deep past and i ask

4085
02:57:35,429 --> 02:57:32,720
everybody just go back and think about

4086
02:57:36,710 --> 02:57:35,439
did you forget about something strange

4087
02:57:38,469 --> 02:57:36,720
that happened

4088
02:57:39,990 --> 02:57:38,479
whatever it is you know you didn't

4089
02:57:43,030 --> 02:57:40,000
mention it to your friends you didn't

4090
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:43,040
mention it to your family members and

4091
02:57:46,950 --> 02:57:45,760
one day turns into a week turns into 20

4092
02:57:48,790 --> 02:57:46,960
years

4093
02:57:51,750 --> 02:57:48,800
you put it on a shelf and you forgot

4094
02:57:54,710 --> 02:57:51,760
about it go back and think about those

4095
02:57:57,750 --> 02:57:54,720
crazy things and see if you can pull it

4096
02:58:00,070 --> 02:57:57,760
back and let's talk about it and and i

4097
02:58:02,710 --> 02:58:00,080
know it's exactly what you're saying i

4098
02:58:05,030 --> 02:58:02,720
think everybody has it they just don't

4099
02:58:07,269 --> 02:58:05,040
remember it because they've never talked

4100
02:58:09,510 --> 02:58:07,279
about it and they move down with life

4101
02:58:11,910 --> 02:58:09,520
caroline and and there's other things

4102
02:58:14,389 --> 02:58:11,920
that are going on today and it just gets

4103
02:58:15,349 --> 02:58:14,399
pushed further and further back but the

4104
02:58:18,469 --> 02:58:15,359
more that

4105
02:58:20,230 --> 02:58:18,479
uh shows like this and films like yours

4106
02:58:22,710 --> 02:58:20,240
they start to stimulate the thought

4107
02:58:25,670 --> 02:58:22,720
process and conversation

4108
02:58:28,309 --> 02:58:25,680
yeah you know my last film especially i

4109
02:58:30,469 --> 02:58:28,319
get every day

4110
02:58:33,030 --> 02:58:30,479
like i don't know how many emails and

4111
02:58:34,870 --> 02:58:33,040
dms and messages and you know from

4112
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:34,880
random people

4113
02:58:42,150 --> 02:58:36,800
and i'm talking

4114
02:58:43,750 --> 02:58:42,160
uh lawyers doctors judges politicians

4115
02:58:44,830 --> 02:58:43,760
mayors

4116
02:58:47,830 --> 02:58:44,840
um

4117
02:58:50,389 --> 02:58:47,840
like police officers like

4118
02:58:51,269 --> 02:58:50,399
random people saying i just watched your

4119
02:58:53,590 --> 02:58:51,279
film

4120
02:58:56,790 --> 02:58:53,600
and i just wanted to tell you that i

4121
02:59:00,469 --> 02:58:56,800
wasn't a believer but when i watched it

4122
02:59:03,030 --> 02:59:00,479
i remembered something that happened uh

4123
02:59:06,469 --> 02:59:03,040
to me blah blah blah and and it made me

4124
02:59:07,510 --> 02:59:06,479
think of it and now i realize

4125
02:59:08,550 --> 02:59:07,520
i mean

4126
02:59:12,150 --> 02:59:08,560
or

4127
02:59:15,110 --> 02:59:12,160
um i i was a believer but i wasn't sure

4128
02:59:17,590 --> 02:59:15,120
and it reminded me of this and this and

4129
02:59:20,070 --> 02:59:17,600
that so that's the thing is like when

4130
02:59:22,070 --> 02:59:20,080
you stop talking about it it's like

4131
02:59:24,309 --> 02:59:22,080
there's no conversation but the more we

4132
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:24,319
put it out there the more people bring

4133
02:59:28,630 --> 02:59:26,720
it out and why is that important i mean

4134
02:59:30,630 --> 02:59:28,640
it's important because it's part of your

4135
02:59:31,750 --> 02:59:30,640
life i mean it's a phenomenon that

4136
02:59:33,990 --> 02:59:31,760
happens

4137
02:59:36,469 --> 02:59:34,000
to you you know it's like

4138
02:59:38,469 --> 02:59:36,479
wait how is that possible

4139
02:59:41,750 --> 02:59:38,479
especially that's one that

4140
02:59:44,230 --> 02:59:41,760
almost everyone tells me

4141
02:59:45,590 --> 02:59:44,240
a deceased parent usually the father or

4142
02:59:48,469 --> 02:59:45,600
the mother whatever

4143
02:59:49,670 --> 02:59:48,479
dies and the next day they show up

4144
02:59:51,269 --> 02:59:49,680
telling them

4145
02:59:53,670 --> 02:59:51,279
i'm okay

4146
02:59:55,269 --> 02:59:53,680
you know this is like so so common i

4147
02:59:57,269 --> 02:59:55,279
hear so many times

4148
03:00:01,349 --> 02:59:57,279
and then another thing another kind of

4149
03:00:02,230 --> 03:00:01,359
sad thing is not that you just forget

4150
03:00:03,830 --> 03:00:02,240
but

4151
03:00:07,510 --> 03:00:03,840
speaking of scientists a lot of

4152
03:00:10,389 --> 03:00:07,520
scientists i work with and so

4153
03:00:13,349 --> 03:00:10,399
uh we'd be doing whatever experiment or

4154
03:00:16,950 --> 03:00:13,359
whatever filming and then

4155
03:00:19,750 --> 03:00:16,960
as soon as we are off camera

4156
03:00:22,389 --> 03:00:19,760
they tell me all these crazy stories

4157
03:00:24,469 --> 03:00:22,399
like they saw a spaceship or they think

4158
03:00:26,870 --> 03:00:24,479
they were abducted and i'm like wait

4159
03:00:28,469 --> 03:00:26,880
wait wait why didn't you say it on girl

4160
03:00:29,510 --> 03:00:28,479
you know it's like

4161
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so

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this is the other side of the coin is

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like some people actually know it to be

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true

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and just won't talk about it

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so

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yeah

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like neil degrasse tyson

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caroline

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so much uh the film everybody is a tear

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in the sky uh the premiere is may 3rd

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we've got the links up in social media

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we've got all the links to caroline's

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films and her websites over at

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jimmychurchradio.com and throughout

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social media caroline

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congratulations good luck on the

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premiere and i look forward to our next

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conversation which caroline and i

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already know when this is going to be

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but we'll pronounce that later

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let's send it telepathically

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telepathically

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you read my mind

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caroline behave and be well thank you so

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much great show tonight thank you so

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much bye

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caroline corey caroline thank you so

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much this is uh fade to black tomorrow

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night i want to remind everybody

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tomorrow night is fader night we've got

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this new setup going on in here

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hopefully

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it'll be smooth caroline cory all of our

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websites are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com we've got

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everything up in social media paid to

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fade to black is produced by kjcr for

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the game changer network and this

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broadcast is owned and copyrighted 2022

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game changer network i'm your host jimmy

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church i'll see all of you tomorrow

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night for fader night it's open lines

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all night long

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until then i want you to be safe

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it's time to fade to black